Interesting how the libs are way more doubtful of this than the China leak one, despite this one coming from a major western biomed journal.
Yeah, funny how that works.
Probably because it started in wuhan.
I don’t trust the US to detect it if the outbreak happened there. Two main reasons I can think of are the backlash their biological warfare research programs world get and how they don’t really care if people die which can be gathered from looking at their death toll to the virus.
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I remember Jeffrey Sachs mentioning that waste water samples were available for a bunch of US states (with bioweapons labs) from the last few months of 2019, but strangely enough they were destroyed without being tested.
Take your bets guys! Was it “we don’t even want to know” or was it “holy shit we actually found something in these!”
Hey, can I get a preprint of that counter-paper you’re submitting to the Lancet?
I suppose pointing out an obvious fact that explains people’s perceptions requires a formal academic paper now.
Just because people believe it doesn’t mean it’s correct. People believed the sun revolved around the earth too, that was an obvious fact for the longest time.
That’s the whole damn reason papers exist my dude. If you want people to take you seriously, you better justify your views with evidence. This isn’t the middle ages anymore.
It was first detected there because China has a robust public health system. There’s some epidemiological evidence that it was spreading in Italy before that, but was being misdiagnosed as influenza.
If proven, then this is the same situation as how the Spanish Flu got its name. It started in the US but Spain was the one most proactive in documenting it (like China is now) and ended up involuntarily getting their country slapped on it.
Why do they still use pictures of “East Asian” people if the article suggests that the virus possibly came from the US
Can’t break away from the narrative too much
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Subliminal messaging
Yep, they clearly weren’t trying to reference a certain racial slur flung at people from Africa
I bet even if the version of USA making the virus will be ultimately widely accepted, they will still be like “Yeah we know it was us, but it’s still China’s fault because they could do it”.
“I had a dream last night that China slapped my dog. All of China, the landmass, vs my chihuahua. Wham! That’s why Xi Jinping is evil.”
lol right!
Typical westoid headlines lol, fury and uproar, even calling them a puppet
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mfw academia generally is a Chinese puppet
https://fortune.com/2022/08/11/china-overtakes-us-academic-scientific-research-papers-rd-spending/
It’s DailyMail, what did you expect
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I remember being told I was acting crazy, losing my mind, and falling into conspiracy theory traps two years ago for proposing this idea to my friends. I don’t know if it’s even more depressing to see articles like this or if it’s vindicating.
Did these friends support the “Chinese lab leak” conspiracy? For extra irony
Lmao nah, but they were certain that it was proven that it came from a Chinese wet market
Of course they did
I like how they make the connection to RFK Jr.'s antivaccine nonsense. Imagine if they applied the same thinking to someone like Adrian Zenz 😯.
lol yeah
everybody forgot about the pockets of “vaping illness” that cropped up before covid, suspiciously close to fort deitrick.
And the vaping illness suspiciously vanished, even though black market vape cartridges didn’t.
I love how this article spends 70% of the word count slandering instead of discussing the contents of the report. Cope more anglos
Oh how the turntables
Yeah I’ve had this suscpicion for the last two years, but any research on the matter gets suppressed hard by search engines.
Weren’t there also reports of “mysterious vaping illness” in Virginia of all places?
Major Covid o7
nice one lmao
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Do you guys think Sachs is getting better, or is he just a more effective global capitalist? As in, he facilitated and personally was involved with the total destruction and looting of the Post-Soviet economy, which was such a disaster for the workers of Russia that life expectancy fell to a degree only seen in war time . But more recently he has been oddly pro China, going as far as writing an article himself straight up saying there is not a genocide in Xinjiang. That I could get, yeah a shade of capitalists win big with cooperation and with China. Then he makes waves saying covid could have been from the US. Then he is very open saying Russia was provoked into intervention in Ukraine.
I can’t tell if he is genuinely getting better or if he just sees this as a path to enabling the most exploitation in favor of the west. Can’t exploit Chinese workers when the countries are at war.
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He has some books that outline that he falls pretty firmly into the social-democratic camp nowadays. I don’t know if he’s ever owned up to his mistakes, but I know he views China’s opening up and reform period as basically what he was going for and that they did it better. He likes Sanders.
He also has some perhaps cold but realistic examinations of “sweatshops” in the global south, claiming they’ve been put into a position of such extreme poverty that they become nearly mandatory for those nations to adopt before they can begin socializing aspects of the economy and making better lives for workers. Not claiming he’s correct or incorrect, just his line.
He was also on the Netflix “Explained” episode on billionaires and had some pretty good things to say.
China’s been saying this since near the beginning.
