7 tanks, 7 downvotes -> The downvotes are from the tank drivers -> The tank drivers are libs -> libs are tankies
I have never seen more flawless logic comrade
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it’s so funny to see lengths NAFO bots will go to turn everything into a victory.
a tank was supposed to reach x, but it got blown up halfway through? “But the crew (according to our unsubstantiated speculation) made it out! the mission was a total success!”
a pmc fielding an army of untrained convicts took over the most fortified city in europe after systematically dismantling the defenses put up by dozens of thousands of ukrainian servicemen? “we inflicted casualties! 1 to 182748 casualty rate favoring the defender because reddit says so! total win!”
the counteroffensive gets obliterated by KA-52 and fails to even get close to the first defense line? "probing attacks! We got their attention! Huge victory! Heil Hi… ehrm, Slava Ukraini!
Marvels of the Advanced Fascist weaponry.
Liberals so adamant on financing these weapons for fascists while this much money should be spent on improving their own financial conditions and quality of life.
Of course the german nazis send 14 tanks to their fellow nazis. They went mask-off fascist, their colonialism is in shambles, they will be crushed again.
Allegedly it was 14 Leopards-2 and 88 Leopards-1. Yeah
Yepp. I fucking hate it how we created 100 billion for the military out of thin air, but do not have money for housing, feeding the poor and education.
We can’t do this because of the poor Bundeshaushalt, we can’t have that because the Bundeshaushalt must be balanced, but then it comes to the Bundeswehr and the US imperial managers and the whole rainbow of factions make blue skies rain.
Remind me again, how much did Putin’s palace cost?
In what way are Dutch and Danish taxpayers being forced to fund said palace? The point of sicaniv’s screenshot seems to me to be that western taxpayers are being given no choice but to fund a war they aren’t involved in, after 10–40 years of austerity and being told the state can’t afford basic services, suddenly there’s a bottomless well of cash for tanks.
What choice do Russians have in either paying for Putin’s palace or dying with outdated equipment?
Suffice it to say, both sides claim they have no money for public services yet suddenly can finance war. The whole war industry is a scam, this has been obvious for more than 100 years now.
I also dislike the military-industrial complex. But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin. Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south because he is fighting the imperialists who have long oppressed them.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed to pay for it. I agree that this is tragic. Much better for that money to be spent on public services.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO. I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.
That was not in any way the point I made. I merely called out Putin’s squandering of public funds (for his own personal interest) to contrast against western squandering of public funds.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin.
It’s in Putin’s political benefit:
Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south
As you have described.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed
Russia is only at war because Russia started a war. A war that the Russian people had no say - hell, they had no idea - in starting.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO.
This is a false narrative. Russia did not have to start a war. There is no excuse here.
I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
Outdated by Russian standards. I think anyone would consider WW2 weapons and expired rations to be outdated.
I always forget history started in February 2022
Those outdated weapons can sure turn state-of-the-art NATO weapons into scrap metal. (See pic above).
redditors when they have to realize that the mighty ubermensch superior german engineering tanks get blown up by an atgm like literally every other tank
Remind me again why were Russians forced to adopt a system were business elites could use their capital to exert political power.
That wasn’t public money.
Erm, Putin made it law in the late 90s that 50% of the wealthiest Russian oligarch’s wealth would be under his control. It was their money, they kept the profits, but Putin directed their spending.
Now, Russian oligarchs invest in political enterprise all over the world, more than almost any other nation (excluding the USA, which is simply wealthier).
Which law was that? The one you made up or the one from up your ass?
Please share your sources for both of these claims, especially the latter; I would be very surprised if the Russian bourgeoisie had more overseas capital than imperialist countries like Canada, the UK and France
houses are generally significantly less expensive than tanks, but in this particular case you’ll have to do the research yourself – feel free to share your findings so we can all be aware of how many parts per million of the annual Russian budget was spent on Putin’s house
Houses, sure. But we’re talking about a mansion the size of a small town where they threw out all the marble they’d already isntalled because it was the wrong colour.
Sounds like some Radio Free Europe shit
I don’t even get your reference.
What you’re saying sounds like pure shit.
Radio free europe is indeed pure shit. It’s a propaganda outlet of usa with the goal of subjugating all europeans
That awkward moment when fascists realize that we tankies are more pro-European than they are
What is your source for that claim? That sounds rather cartoonish
damn, that looks pretty reliable 😬
I found another source:
www.libraryinformationendowment.org/how_putin_increases_his_wealth/
Have you heard of Alexei Navalny?
The Nazi who called Muslims cockroaches? Yeah I’ve heard of him.
He’s the Juan Guaido of Russia.
Yes, but actually Jaun Guaido is the Jaun Guaido of Russia.
Nazivalny?
I think you forgot the part where Putin twirled his moustache and laughed manically while watching.
Nazi alert
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Wasn’t it the Nazis who hoarded public wealth for their own benefit?
Something which has never been known to happen in the modern west, specifically in the United States or Ukraine. Nope, not ever.
don’t you know that Ukraine is actually a libsoc utopia?
That would certainly explain all the sex trafficking
Should I?
Someone ought to find out who put this Putin guy in charge in the first place and give him a spanking 😡
Dear Libs and Fash,
Cope.
neeeein diese are ruski tanks you tanki dombass
As the news of the counteroffensive’s failure started pouring in, there was some idiot, I want to say Pistorius but probably not him, saying the tanks weren’t german, since they weren’t operated in Germany by germans, and that they were instead Ukrainian.
I think it was Baerbock who said that. Idiotic mindset anyways, just idiotic.
“What is German? What is a tank?”
I am tank. Source: me and my tank, which is me.
No. You’re a fridge.
I am actually hoping that part of libs will be converted to Dengism by lurking on Lemmygrad 🙂
1 downvote already
Two now the bots don’t rest
Take my updoot in compensation, kind antifascist stranger
noooooo it doesn’t count, they were operated by inferior slavic beasts
Hey now, we don’t use that kind of language here, we prefer “relatively civilized, relatively European”
Not anymore, USA is looking for an exit strategy. Expect Ukrainians to be non-European again by the end of the year.
NYT is finally recognizing that the nazi symbology is problematic, and the US has thrown Ukraine under the bus for the nordstream bombing.
Within a year we will start to hear the chorus of “How could we possibly have known that the nazis who said they were nazis were nazis!?”
I’ve never heard of Russians being identified as Slavic beasts, but I have heard “Asiatic horde” and “orcs”.
Communists just can’t get into the fashy mindset enough to come up with believable slurs, it’s only natural.
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I never thought the Leopards would eat
my facea mineBut don’t you know that Ukraine is winning?
Suffered some morning brain damage reading some of the comments in there sheesh
how did these people even end up on here. Like, you won’t find me hanging around in neonazi forums for sure. But that would be equivalent to what those people are doing.
Note how reddit invader cheers up the redditisation of lemmy.
Oh no! Anyway
Online as it may sound, I kind of look forward to the day when genzedong on lemmy is as hated as genzedong on reddit was
What i always find funny about capitalist bootlickers , they are so hell bent on invading any M/L spaces online, it is insane the amount of head space marxists occupy in that limited area
because their instances federate with us (and lemmy.ml, in this case), unless they stick to local posts only, they’ll see posts from many instances and seeing an anti-imperialist opinion presumably gives them a real shock
That article starts from photo of Ukrainian soldiers firing a literal WW1 maxim machine gun while their PM talks about “modernisation” and the libs gloats around about modern AFU and weaponless Russians.
Remember that most of them actually believe ua pravda when it says that russians fight with shovels
Russians fight with shovels but also they’re on the verge of overrunning our wholesome wündertech nazi allies.
Damn what do they eat and where can I get some
They still are, every article from it is intensively upvoted on lemmy
I see 9(?) tanks. So how many are left? I have something like 100 leopards in my head?
14 newer ones and 88 previous model i think
Totally casual numbers btw
