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  • We’re not doing a split over it because as the admins have said we don’t defederate except from porn and open fascist instances.

    Now could Hexbear throw a shit-fit and defederate from us? That I could see happening easily. There are numerous drama loving types there and there was that one big thread accusing us baselessly of bigotry because someone got moderated and took it personally to the point of stirring up trouble and calling names as well as for defederation.

    I mean just looking at the comically ridiculous struggle sessions hexbears start among themselves it’s almost amazing it hasn’t happened already.

    Warning, minor criticism incoming: There are far too many there that are given far too much ear from their admins in ways that further pointless and counterproductive in-fighting over nothings that exemplifies the do-nothing, always bickering western left. It’s my second favorite instance after this one I want to be clear, I like a lot of the people there and I’m glad it exists but I do have my problems with it. People accuse MLs of being authoritarian (and so we are) and yet it’s not us but the left unity instance that is constantly having people appeal to the authorities in the hierarchy (ironic) to settle this or that little tiff or disagreement and to impose sweeping changes on others and communities and so on as a result of someone calling to the admins with a convincing sob sorry or whatever. I mean look at the current struggle they have going on over their changes to their shitliberalssay type communities. Just a total disconnect from the masses of their site including long-time users who love that stuff. It’s kind of funny to me but also kind of sad. As the old saying goes, it’s a land of contrasts that Hexbear.



  • Very strange move. As someone else noted, they claim they don’t want data of their people in Chinese hands yet if it’s to still operate for Canadian users it would have to do so from outside their shores and entirely out of their legal jurisdiction, possibly from China.

    I have to wonder if it’s a ban in all but name, that is they expect them to shut down the app for Canadians but want to say “look we didn’t prevent them from keeping the app running, we just shut down their division here, don’t blame us, blame them” as to kind of evade responsibility for it.

    Otherwise I have to wonder if they think that preventing say ad revenue will get them to close up shop on their own or something. It’s just bizarre.


  • Apple podcasts on iPhones, iPads and Mac computers has transcripts that are shockingly good even for highly technical jargon and unusual names. Unfortunately no way to access it outside of Apple devices and no way to copy it as they’re concerned about copyright.

    Otherwise I’d try whisper.



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    IMO that movement has many of the hallmarks of being a propped up US/western destabilization and balkanization operation much like their support for that terrorist movement in Xinjiang in China. Their support is lower key perhaps because they want to maintain good relations against India to use it against China but it’s still there.


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    I’m glad Kamala lost but upset that Claudia didn’t win.

    Instead it’s this orange guy who occasionally says something funny.

    But at least I get to drink liberal genocide apologist tears, everyone be sure to drink plenty of genocide apologist tears and scold them for supporting a genocidal party and candidate that moved right and try to teach them something for once.

    I really, really, really hope she wins every remaining state but Michigan and the Dems get to know for a fact that she probably lost over supporting a genocide but I think that may be overly optimistic as it looks like her path to victory is closed off in AZ and NV. I mean fuck with our luck she’ll somehow win Michigan anyways and the message Dems will take is genocide is okay but PUTIN personally (with the help of re-animated Stalin) stole the election with Russian brainwashing and troll farms.

    Ah well. This bodes badly for the US I think.

    Also be sure to be there for the mental health of those vulnerable friends of yours who maybe are a bit liberal and take this hard, good opportunity after comforting them to maybe lead them out of the blue-anon propaganda.


  • but I’m letting my emotions run heavy.

    Which is exactly the problem with this post on this day and my entire point. Thanks for making it for me again.

    It doesn’t matter the scale. What matters is the problem it causes. If they dissuade 10,000 people and swing a state for Kamala is it a problem then? When is it a problem? The fact is we’re not going to win. But the fact is the point isn’t to win but to do enough damage to the major parties that people take notice and look into it. PSL volunteers sweated hard getting signatures to get on the ballot in so many states and you’re just saying their effort was wasted. That it doesn’t matter. That it’s okay to throw it away. Anyways to my point, any suppression of support, especially on a platform like this on a day like today is not okay. It attacks the work of those people.

    Also PSL is nowhere near the issues of CPUSA. One that regularly tails Democrats and embraces lesser evilism. On a theoretical basis CPUSA is not even in the running to be a vanguard or a party people can look to given its national leadership. I don’t care for arguments about oh local branches this or that, I’ve seen the same thing with DSA and the fact is national has too much power for that to ever really matter.


  • Actually you’re right, my apologies.

    Any acknowledgement of fucking rape is actually just a cynical ploy to make a party that was never going to win the election lose the election.

    Quoting here because this person admits they delete most of their comments after a week and I want context for my replies.

    Calm the fuck down. Stop acting foolish.

    There is a time and place for all things. Any other day, any day outside of today and maybe yesterday. Most of the year is an appropriate time. This day of all days is not okay. Cry about it because for one lousy day or two I think it’s inappropriate to air this stuff given it doesn’t even personally involve violations by the candidates and is just hurting them by association.

    I don’t think that’s extreme. Given these are not new accusations, dredging them up at this moment is clearly sabotage meant to harm the votes they get and enthusiasm for the party and the larger movement. Again, it’s fine to discuss these at a reasonable time and place. Unlike the Democrats whose reasonable time and place for dissension from their party is a few weeks every 2 years between midterms the time for this IMO is just about every day except election day and the days immediately before it. There have been months of time to bring this up during which I wouldn’t bring these accusations, if they made these 24 hours later I also wouldn’t care. But they didn’t do that. They deployed them strategically at the worst possible moment. And when they’ve had all this time, months and months and years to discuss this given it wasn’t a surprise Cruz is who we’re voting for and she’s PSL the fact they waited until now is not right.




  • I still think PSL is the better of the U$ parties, but I think it’s a mistake to not acknowledge that they have issues.

    On election day of all days? And none of you people see this as an obvious attempt to suppress the vote support for PSL?

    We are not a PSL instance, we are not run by PSL. But I will point out that there are certain aspects of Dem-Cent that might be helpful to understand. Namely that once a decision is made by the party the party adheres to that line in public. They do not break ranks or show dissension. Now we could say that the US as a whole has failed to field any other socialist party and therefore we as a whole as a movement have elected PSL as our representatives.

    We don’t owe them adhering to their party line if we’re not members but I think we owe them not criticizing them, being tactful in our timing of criticism of them not to do so at the last minute in a way that inflames feelings against voting for them on election day.

    Just as we do not criticize and air our problems with say Iran on the day they are at the height of danger and anti-western propaganda for a war against them, it’s wise not to air our problems with PSL on this fucking day when all the signature work they’ve done to get on the ballot is on the fucking line.

    Because there isn’t time for many people to sort through those feelings and act dispassionately and the concrete impact of a post like this on election day mere hours before some people vote is people will avoid voting for PSL on the national ballot because of this and feeling icky if they do so.

    So OP is costing the movement visible support. They are an enemy of socialism in my mind even if an unintentional one. Socialists need to be more mindful and thoughtful than OP has shown themselves capable of being.

    No one, least of all me is saying we can’t ever talk about this, that we have to be silent on this or that we can’t criticize PSL. What I am saying is the time for this discussion was 48+ hours ago or 24 hours from now. That’s a lot of time (this is no secret, we’ve known PSL would be the US candidate on the national level for 6+ months) and it’s telling this question was deployed NOW. Not earlier when there was time and passions would recede and people would still make the logical choice to vote PSL as Marxists, but now when it can inflict maximum damage and suppression and cause maximum drama and strife.


  • OP you are engaging in my mind in unacceptable wrecker behavior.

    You are attempting to suppress votes for the only anti-imperialist, socialist party on the ballot nationwide in the US on election day.

    The time to ask this question was a week ago, a month ago, 3 days ago, time for people to have a discussion without a deadline looming to cast a ballot for them or not.

    Doing this at the 11th hour reads to me as an attempt to suppress votes for them, to perhaps even attempt to get some lurkers to vote Democrat instead by causing issues and concern that they’re voting for abusive people.

    Since we’re in the court, I move that OP be given a temp ban until the election is over and this thread be locked and removed as should all other discussion on this as wrecker behavior.

    Why couldn’t any of you have brought this up a week ago? A month ago? We’ve long been supporting PSL’s candidates and discussing our imminent votes for them for some time and people would have been happy to discuss it. But there was silence, no threads, no major discussions on it. Now at this opportune moment you break ranks, you deploy these accusations in an inflammatory thread on election day without proper time for a discussion, raising emotional tensions against PSL right as we most need people to vote for them.

    So why now? I’m disgusted by people dredging up this shit on this day of all days. It’s transparent what it is. It isn’t good faith, it isn’t helpful or useful. Even if it’s all true what are you going to do about it? How else are you going to signal on the ballot as an American a support for the agenda of socialism, a vote against war with China and Russia?

    There is a time for discussion and a time for solidarity and closing of ranks and showing any left-leaning people who browse our instance that we support Claudia de la Cruz and they should too rather than voting Democrat. Today is a day for closing of ranks. Tomorrow will be a day for litigating any problems we may have with our movement.

    This is peak western left in-fighting, ill and unacceptably timed.


  • Yeah. And honestly western intel loves using progressive sounding things to attack the left. They used fabricated rape allegations to try and extradite Assange for instance and if I was part of western intelligence it would be a go-to as it’s just obviously so useful.

    Now I’m sure it does happen, maybe PSL even has a big problem with it, maybe but on the other hand a certain skepticism is necessary balanced with the knowledge that for example Trots tend to form cults full of sexual abuse and predation. Any time you have members romancing and having sexual relations with others you’re going to eventually end up with drama and accusations from people hurting each other intentionally or not and lashing out harshly in the aftermath of that hurt. Add in western intelligence, wreckers who aren’t even paid, etc and you have a formula for disaster.

    Isn’t it interesting too that this thread pops up on election day when many here and linked instances might be thinking of voting for PSL’s candidates? A little propaganda push at the last minute to push people to vote Democrat instead. The timing is unacceptable and I think for that reason it reeks of manipulation and even would be fair target for a lock and sinking until the election is over as the time to bring this up was a week ago as we’ve been discussing supporting PSL’s candidate for months and only now is this deployed for maximum damage and disillusionment.

    In fact that’s what I suggest. Locking this and banning discussion on it until this evening. These people are attempting to cause the drama and dissuade people from voting for the only socialist, anti-imperialist party on the ballot is disgusting behavior. If people had issues they had plenty of time in the lead-up to vent while giving PSL’s supporters time to respond. Instead this is deployed at the 11th hour to obviously suppress enthusiasm for the party on the ballot in the US on vote day. That’s wrecker behavior, that’s bad faith.


  • Once again showing the limits of understanding of a liberal worldview informed by western propaganda narratives that cast Russia (and China) as “authoritarian” and these nebulously defined bad anti-liberal actors while the west is cast as unquestionably good at its core despite openly supporting the most obvious and undeniable genocide in decades.

    She’s been good on Gaza lately but maybe she like so many in the west is doomed to inhabit an ignorant, anarchistic anti-war-ism that leads to the victims gulping down and vomiting back out western propaganda and suspiciously supporting a number of western uses of violence as “necessary”.




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    It’s really hard to say. I could see the strategy of appealing to young men by telling them Trump and project 2025 are going to ban porn on top of the abortion issue pushing Kamala over the edge but right now I think Trump has an atomically small edge and seems ever so slightly more likely to win given how bad economic conditions are for working people and the tendency of Americans to change parties over things like that. Even if Trump loses if it’s close enough they can just pull a 2000 and steal it with lawyers and the Supreme Court so he has that going for him as well. Bourgeoisie in the tech sphere seem to be for Trump with Bezos and Musk seeming at least neutral or in Musk’s case all in.