• redtea
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    In what way are Dutch and Danish taxpayers being forced to fund said palace? The point of sicaniv’s screenshot seems to me to be that western taxpayers are being given no choice but to fund a war they aren’t involved in, after 10–40 years of austerity and being told the state can’t afford basic services, suddenly there’s a bottomless well of cash for tanks.

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      What choice do Russians have in either paying for Putin’s palace or dying with outdated equipment?

      Suffice it to say, both sides claim they have no money for public services yet suddenly can finance war. The whole war industry is a scam, this has been obvious for more than 100 years now.

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        I also dislike the military-industrial complex. But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.

        Russia is not at war to glorify Putin. Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south because he is fighting the imperialists who have long oppressed them.

        Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed to pay for it. I agree that this is tragic. Much better for that money to be spent on public services.

        But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO. I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?

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          But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.

          That was not in any way the point I made. I merely called out Putin’s squandering of public funds (for his own personal interest) to contrast against western squandering of public funds.

          Russia is not at war to glorify Putin.

          It’s in Putin’s political benefit:

          Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south

          As you have described.

          Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed

          Russia is only at war because Russia started a war. A war that the Russian people had no say - hell, they had no idea - in starting.

          But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO.

          This is a false narrative. Russia did not have to start a war. There is no excuse here.

          I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?

          Outdated by Russian standards. I think anyone would consider WW2 weapons and expired rations to be outdated.

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            Those outdated weapons can sure turn state-of-the-art NATO weapons into scrap metal. (See pic above).

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              redditors when they have to realize that the mighty ubermensch superior german engineering tanks get blown up by an atgm like literally every other tank