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    The ‘new Ukraine’ is failing us, LGBT activists say

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/31/new-ukraine-government-lgbt-activists-gay-rights-zoryan-kis

    Guardian

    Amnesty International Ukraine listed over 20 violent attacks on feminist, LGBT or human rights discussions and rallies committed by the radical nationalists during the recent year and criticized the Government’s connivance in these actions

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180717203441/http://amnesty.org.ua/nws/ukrayina-vlada-poturaye-eskalatsiyi-nasilstva-z-boku-radikalnih-ugrupovan/

    Shevchenko lamented the lack of protection provided by Ukrainian police at all events except for the annual Pride march in June.

    “Pride is the exception, because Ukraine needs one day every year for LGBT rights,” she said. “But it’s not really about LGBT rights, it’s about showing a picture of this for Western partners.”

    The other 364 days of the year, however, the LGBT community faces the threat of physical attack and lacks adequate protection guaranteed under Ukrainian law by authorities, she added.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/it-s-even-worse-than-before-how-the-revolution-of-dignity-failed-lgbt-ukrainians/29613348.html

    This is Radio Free Europe, a literal American propaganda outlet just a few years ago. Let them tell you how Radio Free Europe is Russian Propaganda.

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      Gee, I wish they had a shorter, punchier word for “radical nationalists”

      Also yeah basically every news outlet just a mere few years ago was running stories about Ukranian corruption and their Nazi problem

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        That’s probably because the western powers were deciding between using Nazis and using Nazis as an excuse to occupy Ukraine

        Same with extremists in Syria. There they chose both.

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      literally all they have to say in the article is that azov hasn’t attacked any lgbtq+ people (probably a false claim), and that they accepted money from a queer organization. even if they weren’t virulently homo/transphobic, that’s pretty far from allyship

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        Definitely a false claim, even according to Radio Free Europe:

        Olena Shevchenko, an activist for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community, wrote on Facebook that police did “nothing” to prevent the group of right-wing Azov and Pravy Sektor battalion members from disturbing the October 18 event in the city of Chernivtsi.

        She also said two men – one Ukrainian and one German – suffered light injuries after being attacked by Azov members.

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        I have no source to link but I’ve read dozens of small stories of Nazis attacking (among other demographics) queers in Ukraine. It is absolutely a false claim.

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    Is the Ku Klux Klan a friend or a foe of the African American community?

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    Is Germany’s Nazi Party a friend or foe of the LGBTQ community?

    The USSR calls members of the NSDAP ant-LGBTQ Nazis. But Germany’s “queer” community is calling them heroes.

    Same logic

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    Two nominally right wing governments are at war. Why yes, we can say nazis are on the right side of this one because they get endorsed by their local queer community.

    Well shit. I am pretty sure that you can find some based queer community in Russia that supports Russia.

    This war and the liberals and reactionaries are fucking braindead. Even the brain worms are dead from starvation!

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    If you try to fight Liberals on this, they just pivot to saying Russia isn’t LGBTQIA+ friendly and that’s why Azov are “heroes”. And though it’s true that Russia’s policies towards queer rights are criminally lacking, Azov are literal nazis who’ve said they want to defend Ukraine from the queer community.

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      I swear, first world liberal queers actively harm the entire global struggle for queer rights.

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        And more!

        I swear, first world liberal queers actively harm the entire global struggle for queer human rights.

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      Azov are literal nazis who’ve said they want to defend Ukraine from the queer community.

      But… but… Russia!

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    Someone please catapult these morons straight to Lviv. Lets see how much they love their “LGBT friendly Azov nazis” when its on their skin. Fucking dumbasses.

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    Even if this were true, LGBT-friendly genociders is not exactly an improvement.

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      What do you mean??? Isnt Biden basically a socialist now since now trans marines are dronestriking muslimos in Iraq???

      -Some lib in the US