If you search this site, the second thing that shows is a comment saying «It feels nice to be able to say kill all the landlords and slave owners.» with 44 upvotes. Its a edgy meme, i get it. I even find it somewhat funny. Anyway, its beside the point. Landlord is a bit vague in this meme context.
What it started with was the comment from Zero:
Reminder landlords can still be a part of worker class. Most are
I understand where he is coming from in first part. Confused about classes. It would not be to hard to link to some ML texts that discusses it. It can also ‘simply’ be explained that its the billionaires and exploiters we want to get rid of. The last part is just laughable. It would be pretty easy to prove to Zero or anyone that you cant be working class and a landlord at the same time by marxist definitions. But people get confused/some trolls and mixes it with the much more loose definition that the west has for it today.
What? Google the quote and you will find memes and grafitti tags with it. The comment that got Zero banned was on a post glorifying a guy for killing his landlord with a sword. (Not saying he was wrong but it plays into it)
They will argue the smallest ‘what ifs’. When someone says ‘kill all landlords’, they are asking about these kind of extreme situations in my example.
Tried debating someone playing devil’s advocate?
Yes, as an example. If she owns the house, she can by definition also be her own sons landlord if he is over 18 and are eligible for some kind of grant/benefits.
I agree with mostly everything. The only thing i disagree with is, i think you are painting it very black and white. Not every landlord will «charge a significant portion of their monthly income to allow them live in it, and evict them if they are unable to pay rent.» and its necessary to be exact when talking about this. We dont want to be seen as merciless thugs.
A landlord today can by defition include a single parent full of debt, working 2-3 minimum wage jobs for some billionare while ‘renting out’ a bedroom to her son and his girlfriend that they pay with some goverment program or student loan, to some billionare with hundreds of inherited rental properties. Its alot of people in between.
Thank you for a good reply. But, i dont agree with the premise that these types of landlords are such a minority that it can be ignored by calling them a «technicality to derail the conversation».
I belive the ratio of how many rentals the general landowner own is corresponding with the general wealth. The higher the more rentals.
What Zero said was
I don’t think they should get the same treatment as a capitalist owning 965 houses from inheritance and the exploitation of workers
And as yourself just said
it is not meant that literally every single person who has rented out land will be redacted.
Imo we are all agreeing that not all landowners should face the wall. It can be more nuanced than that and its important to explain these things. They certainly wont learn it in school.
Maybe he is speaking from personal experiences when he said «most landowners are working class», maybe he is young. Anyway, in general its better to try to teach people, especially when they already show great interest for the same ideas as us.
And lets be real; there is no ethical consumption under capitalism 😄
Eesh, i look at this when it happened. I dont think he is discussing in bad faith but genuinely confused as by why we wanted to ‘genocide’ all landlords.
Owning a flat to rent out is in some places pretty common, how it goes is something like this; often the parents will help their son/daughter to buy their first flat, because they cant on their own. Ex. To low income as students etc. The young will pay down the loan trough their parents, as to not just ‘waste’ it on normal rent.
When the flat is owned and the young student is ready for marriage/job they dont sell it, they move to a another place with their family and rent out the student flat to help pay down their new mortgage. When i was i school, several students had this or very similar things happen to them and tbh, i dont see them as evil. They are indeed blindly following traditions/taking goverment incentives to promote self ownership and to become financially independent from their parents.
Usually the armies will stay outside of cities to protect it. If that fails, you loose the city. One does not go into and mingle with the civilians. You put their lifes unnecessary in danger.
What whe have seen in Ukraine is very different. The defense has taken place from high rise apartement complexes that still have civilians in the basement. There is ww1 trenches troughout and in the city centers. And when a city falls to Russia, the city and all its inhabitants get shelled by Ukranian artillery. Like they never cared about its inhabitants ever.
Fun fact: He used to mark the number of his kills on that pipe. Until he ran out of space.
After the war, he returned home on a horse. Legend!
I agree, i would prefer them to be able to stop 100% of the attacks.
Yeah, they have attacked the border town Belgorod in Russia and almost daily shells Donetsk in Donbas. DPR says 126 civilians killed in republic in 101 days of conflict escalation. 586 civilians have suffered different wounds.
All these attacks have been with aviation or some form of artillery. They have not had soldiers there since the start of the conflict as far as i know.
Not sure i will give them that much. «Reading geopolitics» could also just mean «Read alot of Reddit headlines».
Yup, its the encryption in the VPN that usually slows you down. SOCKS5 does not have that, thereby faster.
As long as everything you are doing is legal and wont get you in danger in your country, you are fine. My posts is directed at other users and political groups fishing for data. But without any VPN/Tor browser, ex. the goverment will have no issue linking your IP to the person who ordered/pays for the connection.
Fuck this guy.
GETchan is doing astonishing work with the channel. I love how big the collection has become.
«Convicted foreign mercenaries have a month to appeal the verdict, let’s see if they will use this opportunity» - DNR chief Pushilin