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    Worked in what sense? To what end? It certainly works when it is used as a false flag to justify imperialist/colonial violence. It also has its uses in the various hybrid wars that the US has been waging across the world funding ISIS and Al Qaeda, though that doesn’t seem to have quite panned out the way they were hoping at least in Iraq and Syria, and it backfired on them in Afghanistan. Other than that, i’m not sure. On this topic it is worth reading what Lenin had to say about the Narodniks and Anarchists who in the late 19th century adopted a strategy of “propaganda of the deed”. Suffice to say it didn’t work out.

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    Of course doing mischievous acts has done much good, and I urge everyone here to comment their identifying information so we can all get to know each other better and to help plan more criminal acts! I promise I am not gathering your information for any other purpose! See I’ll even go first!

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      Great idea. The password to my password manager is TmljZSB0cnkuIERpZCB5b3UgcmVhbGx5IHRoaW5rIEknZCBwcm92aWRlIG15IHBhc3N3b3JkPwo=

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        I live in the huge Swiss cheese holes inside uncle Joe’s brain. The rental rates are fantastic, and the landlord keeps forgetting I’m here!

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    Worked for Israel, but the British caved suspiciously easily as if they wanted it to happen eventually anyways.

    Also worked for America to dismantle left wing forces in Islamic nations going socialist. Same with contra types in Latin America.

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    According to Lt. Commander Data, maybe:

    In 2366, the Irish Unification of 2024 was noted by Lieutenant Commander Data as one of the numerous examples in history where terrorism was successfully used to bring about political change. Other examples he listed were the independence of Mexico from Spain, and the Kenzie Rebellion. (TNG: “The High Ground”)

    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Irish_Unification_of_2024

    More seriously, the question is for whom? The American empire? It works pretty well or has in the past, they use it all the time to justify things and whip up their populations into obedience.

    Propaganda of the deed is a failure. Adventurism is to be shunned. Many acts of terrorism are downright counter-revolutionary in their thought process, about silly martyrdom and glory of the individual, deranged great-man belief the individual with an act of properly timed violence can just cause tectonic shifts in the structure.

    This is why liberals have no issue promoting this idea in their fictional media. (That said, old Trek is based and I will not have it slandered)

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    Not really, no. Without popular support, it just ends up creating more material for the bourgeoisie to use for propaganda.

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    Aside from what others have pointed out, likely any sort of revolutionary activity would be labeled terrorism by the bourgeois state so you must be cautious of how the word is used by bourgeois media.

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    All I can think of is that the assassination of Shinzo Abe did bring to light his past, and the assassination of the other Abe contributed to the ending of Reconstruction.

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    Antoine Teror was an ultra who believed in the propaganda of the deed.

    He was going to bomb parliament but a bystander old lady hit him with her bag and set him to his mother.

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          The new KGB has relayed information of this injustice to Xi and he assures us that the Xibucks are now on their way. It seems some libs stole them while they were on their way to you. Those libs have now been purged.

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    Sure. Iraq surrendered their sovereignty to terrorists.

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    If you mean like “propaganda of the deed” done by socialist-aligned groups, then no. The Weathermen set off some 70+ bombs around the U.S., blowing up slaveowner statues and ROTC buildings. From my understanding, the RAF often acted similarly in West Germany. The Shining Path utilizes terrorism (it’s enshrined as a core tenet of their ideology, via Gonzalo’s writing) and they’re at their weakest and most despised state in their history. All that terrorism winds up doing is getting revolutionaries arrested and killed, harming innocents, and souring public opinion to the idea of revolution.

    Notably, this is different than guerilla warfare, mainly in that innocents are not targeted and that guerilla warfare can be fought in revolutionary self-defense. This comment is also only accounting for socialist/leftist movements. Fascists use terrorism all the time and win – same goes for imperialists, religious fundamentalists, etc… etc.

    (I also echo other comments in that the term “terrorist” is rather vapid and mutable to ones’ whims. “One person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter” and all.)

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      The main tactic of guerrilla warfare is political struggle and education. The warfare part is the lesser, albeit no less important, part of it.

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    I think Lenin wrote in the first chapter of State and Revolution why it doesn’t work. Terrorism is for the purpose of spreading terror. That’s not what we aim to do, we want the masses to work with us rather than fear us. The IRA are debatable because I’m pretty sure they called the bombing locations prior and order evacuations. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but La Mon bombing was called in by IRA and ignored by the person answering phones.

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    The one text by trotsky that I like is called why Why Marxists Oppose Individual Terrorism. I like this stance bc acting individually circumvents collective action and struggle. And terrorism defined by bourgeois is not useful anyway, bc if a workforce decides to kill a capitalist, it is different from a lone avenger.