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    This is getting live threads, constant radio attention, experts commenting everywhere, millions of dollars in search equipment etc.

    Just days after hundreds of migrants died on the Greek coast after the Coast Guard refused to help them or even look for them afterwards. And now they are forgotten.

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      To clarify: it’s not that I necessarily want these submarine people to die. Searching for them is okay, even.

      It’s just that the contrast of attention given to this compared to the Greek disaster is insane.

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        They are billionaires, their deaths would likely be a net good

        However, it is particularly gruesome in this case and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone

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      Yeah, there’s this general trend where “Western” media and their offshore subsidiaries only care about people if they’re famous, white or both. This was my main criticism of the coverage of the war in Ukraine when it started because from the start it was very disproportionate compared to other conflicts in peripheral nations. I guess it’s hard for newscorps and liberals to talk about those in-depth because they’d need to acknowledge “that poor and non-white people are humans deserving of dignity”, which is a controversial statement among their peers. Not to mention their favourite parties and corporations having a stake in killing and displacing those poor/non-white people.

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    I can’t believe they were piloting this submarine with a cheap controller

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      I about lost my goddamn mind seeing that. Like… You built a submersible out of whatever the fuck you had laying around in your like four garages; at that point, you are fucking around with Poseidon. …I get the distinct sense this dude and his billionaire buddies are in the depths of the process of ‘finding out’ just how wrathful He is.

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        Tbf, theoretically the carbon tube body should be stable up until 4km deep. Problem is:

        1. This wasn’t tested outside of mathematical models.
        2. The Titanic is at a depth just shy of that mark.

        In addition: If anything goes wrong with it, it’s too late once you notice. Carbon tube shit shatters, it doesn’t have the courtessy of cracking first to warn you.

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      I believe I also saw that they were using glass graded for 1300m max for the viewport. …for a 4000m dive.

      Even if the oxygen supply wasn’t an issue, I can’t imagine that the thing hasn’t shattered by now. I swear, this was all an elaborate ploy to get rid of rich people, because nobody would actually put together a vessel so unsuited for the task.

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      Rich people’s narcissism is often their own undoing. People who have very few setbacks in life, forget all about the concepts of danger and disaster. That’s my theory at least.

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    How expensive are these efforts for the taxpayers?

    Shouldn’t they just ask for Elon’s engineering prowess, instead?

    Their stupid experiments fail and society has to pay for it, yet again?

    Questions shouldn’t offend anyone. That’s my opinion. /s

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    Thalassophobia is a big thing for a reason. This is what happens when somebody disrespects the ocean.

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    oh nooo, what if the rich exploiters suffocate in there? :(

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        Is anyone else wondering whether the five people on board have worked out that there will be so much oxygen for 5 people, which might go a lot further with 4, 3, 2, or 1 people. They’d also get a meal or two out of it.

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          I would love to spend my last living moments in a cramped tube next to a rotting corpse.

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            When you put it like that it sounds like life on the surface under capitalism. It’ll go the same way, too, soon, but never too soon.

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    Reuter’s headline I just read: Why the missing sub is capturing the world’s attention

    I’ve reached my limit for head trauma today so I didn’t open it but id imagine it has something to do with the fact that the media will not shut the fuck up about it

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    I would barely trust true to form meticulously engineered and tested military SSBN submarines like the Ohio Class or Delphin Class to take me several thousand feet underwater. Forget a literal welded tin can with a PS2 controller.

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      meticulously engineered and tested military SSBN submarines like the Los Angeles Class or Delphin Class

      About that…

      Also, Los Angeles class is SSN, not SSBN. Which Delphin you mean? It has to be most common name for submarines ever.

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        Happens all the time. I used to work in a factory that worked with metal and after the pieces were painted, we were supposed to test the paint’s thickness with a tool. You press sort of a pen on different parts of the piece and the screen gives you the average thickness. It was supposed to be within a certain set of tolerance.

        I test my first piece and notice that the no matter where I test, the average is way above the tolerance limits. I ask around about what we should do and they tell me don’t worry about it, just put whatever number that’s within the tolerance limit.

        Almost none of our pieces were within tolerance. Thankfully it wasn’t for anything as crucial as submarine steel, but still.

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            The metal pieces were made to be the casing to other machines from what I understood (I only worked there a month and didn’t really care about these parts lol, no time to think about that on the production line), I figure at most uneven paint thickness would have made it easier to scrape off and made it a bit more difficult to fit them together.

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        Delphin as in the Soviet Delta IV series SSBN. I would never much NOT trust the 1903 Imperial Russian Delphin submarine.

        Also dang, I knew that sounded off. I couldn’t remember if Ohio or Los Angeles were the ballistic platform.

        Botched steel aside, something tells me that those submarines would preform leagues better then this decrepit jerryrigged mess. Hell, in a worst case scenario, an Ohio or Los Angeles has dozens of bulkheads, emergency rooms, emergency surface launchers, and safety measures to stay alive until rescue arrives. If this disaster as much as springs a leak… good luck.

        I have no idea why anyone that isn’t deranged would ever trust their life to this contraption. You couldn’t pay me to man that wreck.

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          I have no idea why anyone that isn’t deranged would ever trust their life to this contraption.

          And yet, Elon Musk’s shit tunnel thing is basically the same thing but on land—a subsurface transport system with no escape should something to wrong (which it definitely will, given enough time).

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      It wasn’t even welded. The sub is so ridiculous that it doesn’t even use steel or titanium alloy like most serious submarines. Contrary to its name it was made out of carbon fiber.

      https://fortune.com/2023/06/21/titan-titanic-missing-sub-david-lochridge-safety-concerns-sacked-oceangate-stockton-rush-hamish-harding/

      Lochridge warned that the constant pressure on the Titan as it traveled deeper underwater would weaken any existing structural flaws, resulting in large tears to its carbon components. It was crucial, he said, to conduct non-destructive testing so that a solid and safe product could be provided for both passengers and crew.

      Diving the submersible “without any non-destructive testing to prove its integrity” would “subject passengers to potential extreme danger in an experimental submersible,” Lochridge said in legal documents.

      However, OceanGate allegedly told Lochridge that instead of carrying out the testing, it would install an acoustic monitoring system in the submersible to detect the start of any potential hull breakdown.

      Lochridge expressed concern that such an acoustic system would not be able to detect existing flaws. It would simply flag components that were about to fail, he warned—which often happened “milliseconds before an implosion.”

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      But have you considered it’s a wireless controller?

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      Putin himself switched the flimsy Xbox controller with his own and drowned them while sitting nearby in a rubber boat, made out of the skin of dead Ukrainian puppies

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    All of this is so ridiculous that I’m almost wondering if it’s a cover-up for something. Or they’re faking their deaths for some reason.

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      Neither honestly, I feel they’re just freaking out because its a rich person. A billionaire is no joke, and all of their fellow billionaires in media and government will run to their aid.

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        You’re onto something there. Some won’t like the analogy but billionaires are treated as deities. They’re not supposed to suffer like ordinary people.

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          Money is supposed to make them immortal and all powerful. They aren’t supposed to be affected to the human condition or the consequences of their actions. So when they suffer consequences or die at the hands of something that is indifferent to how much money they have in their bank account (nature), they despise that.

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    Turns out the sub imploded around the time they lost communication. So they died quickly and not in the agonizing way people have been lead to believe. Moral of the story, don’t do this shit!

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    I have a neat idea. Let’s get some more billionaires to go looking for them. If we throw enough billionaires at the problem I’m sure we can solve the problem.