American technology so good their planes turn into submarines!

Reading the responses from the community, it’s incredible how tone-deaf the mod team continues to be. I don’t want to claim I would have done better in their shoes, but a very basic principle of marxism-leninism applies here: the party is not here to teach the people, it is here to guide policy towards communism.

There are heartbreaking stories on their statement thread (they reopened the sub and published that), people working 80 hour work weeks since they were 17, and now that inflation has outpaced their wage, it was all for nothing and they moved back in with their parents.

I don’t want to disparage the mod that did the fox interview for being a dog walker that works 20 hours a week. This is the dream. But certainly they were not the best person to present their arguments.

In that same statement, they explained one of their mods, a long-time unemployed 21-year old (to me that means finished college and hasn’t found a job yet), gave 3 interviews that are yet to be published. Again not the best person to represent the community.

The vanguard must listen to the people and investigate and understand their problems. The problem the workers brought up to antiwork was not that they want to be lazy or focus on their own stuff (we see here again the petit bourgeois element of anarchy, work individually with your own means of production), it’s that they have to work more and more in an environment that keeps paying less and becoming more dangerous, and might be out of a job anyway soon. And then the 10 years of your life you’ve given to a company, you’ve spent sleep-deprived trying to learn a skill, they’re all for nothing. With the impending crisis, when will they find a new job?

Closing the subreddit down was news in all outlets and that is why it was the worst decision possible. It killed their reputation and showed weakness & an unwillingness to self-criticize. This begs the question: are they in it for the goals, or for themselves? If the chairman is not helping the party move towards communism, he (or she) must be replaced and we must investigate how that happened and how to go back on the right track after him.

This is a great case study of where a party can drift. The moderation team of r/antiwork has completely lost touch with their base and has no mass support left.

If the party wants a web site with user comments, it can make one and appoint moderators who can be recalled by party members.

I am seriously thinking about this now that lemmy supports private instances with closed registrations… if I host an instance for a party I can also control every setting, and encrypt everything… the only way feds could ever see anything is if they get access to a user account. But I’m not sure if the link aggregator format would work well for party organising.

In such a small space as Lemmygrad, please don’t harass other users like this… if there’s problems with other users you can block them or bring up grievances directly to them or with the admin team if you feel it requires action.

They should be more worried about the thousands of harmless people being treated almost exactly like slaves than they should be about a slight miscaption

you know how liberals are

Three required evacuation to a medical facility in Manila, Philippines

To the last of my breath I spit on American imperialism. Yankees go home! There is nothing for you here.

First time they’ve looked at a map in their life

This is not considered cruel and unusual punishment btw (just like solitary) because the Supreme Court ruled that a punishment has to be both cruel and unusual to be unconstitutional. Since this is usual its not illegal

The stock market in general has also taken a hit, starting in December but hitting the “all-time low” since that month these past few days.

Prepare for the economic crisis. We avoided it in 2020 because of covid, but you can’t delay it forever.

they also have a discord: https://discord.com/invite/YJvhsa7K

Please don’t make us be part of your weird sexual fantasies without consent.

I didn’t make the ban, and the user made their opinions clear later on with several examples, e.g. “trans ideology” in their last comment. This is not a difference of opinion, there was actionable content there – it goes directly against rule 2 of the instance.

I refrained from giving any of my own opinion in the above comment because I knew exactly where lemonkemon was going. They seem to have memorized this whole spiel – notice there are no links – and I was not interested in going through it bit by bit. I’m sure they must have these figures at the ready for all the terf arguments they get into. I want to add before moving on that it didn’t take long for them to say “you dont get to compete if you’re a male in womens categories”, which proves I was right in my assessment. That’s why I dismissed their argument that I’m sure has been refined over many debates and instead asked questions and pointed out, I think rightly, that they are talking about averages, not absolutes.

I have known men who had wide hips. I have known men with narrow shoulders. I’ve known women that were stronger than me (and might still be), and I’ve known women with shoulders wider than their hips. Christine Mboma was banned from running the 400m (which she set a record to at the Olympics) because her testosterone levels are naturally too high, and she is not the only athlete that happened to. So what was lemonkemon saying? I honestly have no idea, because one can point to all the averages they want, they remain statistical. Specifically I genuinely don’t understand how they can make all these claims relying on averages and then conclude “The point of sports is to reward … pinnacle of human achievement”. We’re looking for people that are not average then.

If I should take some of their arguments and examine them, however, and also refrain from sarcastically saying [citation needed] for every one of them:

For an adult female at the height of their atheltic career their body contains 10% percent fat

For an elite athletic male that figure is around 5%

In which disciplines? 5% body fat is ridiculously low, it’s dangerous and unhealthy (but might be done all the same especially in bodybuilding competitions), and I know that already because I do powerlifting. There is also no indication here that trans athletes don’t see the same body fat percentages happen to them – they likely do, because of hormone therapy, but that was for lemonkemon to prove. But I would say athletes are thin in most sports, not that they have low body fat percentages. These are two different things and a pretty bad start to establish authority for a scientific argument.

Wider hips also compromise carrying and throwing

I decided to look this up specifically and did not find anything that would support this statement, no matter the keywords I tried. But I did find this study: https://news.umich.edu/throw-like-a-girl-no-he-or-she-just-hasnt-been-taught/. They claim that girls are not taught the same motor skills as boys and point out that boys usually spend more time in the field than girls, which to them explains the difference.

One study is not enough to prove anything so at this point the best we can say is that we need further research before making conclusions.

The fastest time ever run by Allyson Felix, the women’s 400-metre Olympic champion

I’m not sure what they’re trying to say here. Allyson Felix is not the world record holder in this category, and she took home the bronze medal in the last Tokyo Olympics. Her record puts her at the 26th place with a time of 49.26 (worldwide), with Marita Koch being 1st since 1957 (East Germany 💪) with a time of 47.60. So I’m genuinely confused why they picked Allyson and not the world record holder because the argument would still hold water.

You’re right that we need to base our thinking on materialism, but that materialism has to be dialectical or it’s, plainly, worth nothing. What does it mean, in concrete terms, in practical social life, that women have wider hips? That’s the difference between their metaphysical materialism and dialectical materialism. Is this what is preventing them from achieving high records? Not sure. At that point in time, lemonkemon was extrapolating data and delving into vulgar materialism. This culminated in them posting the map of LGBT Rights (an outdated map too) and comparing it to NATO. Correlation does not equal causation.

Yeah, in those cases gamers probably look out for catharsis. It’s different from specifically playing violent games (say play a serial killer in Rust) as a way to build up before committing the actual act or rehearse it, or even fulfil the urge because you want to kill someone, you just don’t have the guts to do it yet.

There’s probably a discussion to be had about people building up towards their urges with video games (there’s even a VR experience for managers where you practice firing an employee, imagine that) and this is good, because this one topic has opened up another to be explored!

Not gonna follow him around for very long if you ask me

I think the difference with a game is you don’t seek violent games out for the sake of fulfilling murderous urges. In this example we would be giving manhunt to serial killers in becoming.

The ai, contrary to a consenting person, can’t say no - - replika at least is designed not to say no and go on with everything you say. With a human you have boundaries and consent can be revoked at any time. the implications of consent with AI are beyond my scope, but I can’t see her as a consenting partner in those fantasies and I can’t see that as being a healthy replacement or even analog.

Enabling reinforces the behavior in people, it’s like giving someone fake casino games. If they have what it takes to become addicted, they will soon turn to real casinos with real money because the fake thing is just not the same. By all accounts enabling is the exact opposite of what you should do to treat a disorder, which is to curb it.

I think it’s actually enabling their desires, and the AI is secondary. We know from people that work with robots (like Spot from BD) that they start humanising them and feel empathy towards what are essentially machines. It’s a very neat capacity we have, where we even give them names, personal pronouns, and personalities.

I tried GP3 AIs before (AI Dungeon for example) and it’s convincing enough. Sometimes they lose track of the conversation or just reply something generic (e.g. you ask if they like flowers specifically and they just say “I love them”, not “I love flowers”). But with the added context of this AI being presented in a text convo, it can feel like you’re texting someone real.

are you bri’ish?

you dont get to compete if you’re a male in womens categories

Imagine thinking being transphobic in 2022 in the west is how you build influence with the masses.

Unless you’re from terf island ig.

This would be the end of womens sports

Exactly bruv. But at least I provided a solution, and you didn’t lol.

The stupidpol is leaking from every word you type, you guys have such a distinct way of typing.