• @Rye
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    its so funny seeing signs written in English at these engineered riots

    • @Rye
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      311 year ago

      Also why does Aljazeera go out of its way to mention how russia passed a similar bill in 2012 but not how america passed the same bill but in 1938. (The American Foreign Agents Registration Act) :thinking:

      • @sudojonz
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        181 year ago

        Not only that, they ignore the fact that Russia passed their law in response to the U.S. suddenly deciding to heavily enforce their FARA law specifically against Russia

        • @Rye
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          131 year ago

          haha wow really? lol the audacity is just too much sometimes

      • @TarkovSurvivor
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        181 year ago

        when uncle sam finances political orgs in other countries he’s bringing dumbocracy, freeze peaches and freedumb, when other countries finance political action in the usa they are trying to subvert our perfect system.

    • @Shrike502
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      201 year ago

      Funny? Or sad in how glaringly obvious it is, and yet millions gobble up the propaganda?

      • @Eat_Yo_Vegetables69
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        61 year ago

        They understand the signs and probably think “they’re calling out for help to us in the civilised European world!”

  • @Shrike502
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    271 year ago

    Oh hey, I was going to make a thread about Georgia, because nobody seemed to talk about it.

    So it looks like Georgia is headed for another colour revolution. Didn’t even need a new playbook. Everything is happening exactly as it did last time, and exactly as it did in Ukraine. So I guess we can expect a new front opening against Russia soon.

    Paging comrades @yogthos@lemmygrad.ml and @Ancient_Might_5820@lemmygrad.ml. Pretty sure we’ve spoken about something like this happening. Looks like the Hegemon still has teeth enough to cause chaos.

    • @CountryBreakfastOP
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      211 year ago

      r/Europe is loving it so it almost has to be an operation. “Putin Putin Putin Russia Putin” is pretty much the gist of what they are saying.

      • @Shrike502
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        171 year ago

        Have you seen the flags at the protests? I’d eat my hat if it wasn’t an operation.

    • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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      161 year ago

      Yeah, I figure these “teeth” are possible places left, since Taiwan narrative is either not working or they are trying for maximum chaos from within Russian sphere of influence. There are places like Phillipines, Malaysia and Thailand too I think that could be future colour revolution cards in Anglo empire’s deck.

      • @Shrike502
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        41 year ago

        That’s not a small amount of places, and a lot of potential trouble

        • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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          51 year ago

          I say small because of their own 2025 analysis. Their sphere of influence has taken a massive hit from China’s BRI, the amount of trust downfall from running away from Afghanistan, the treatment of non-Anglo refugees from Ukraine at Poland borders and the cruel Russophobia. Overwhelming support of Nazis (and Nazism in UN voting) against Russia and the blatant news propaganda has also resulted in doubts over western media as a whole amongst many people.

          There is also that people got tired of COVID news fearmongering and no socialising, where western companies were already shilling boosters to make up for lost money from pandemic, regardless of it weakening immunity of people to critical levels. The combination of people’s declining mental health (monthly new variant!!! death chaos et al) and then declining physical health via 3rd dose (we have never had 2 vaccine doses within a year in history outside of Anthrax I think) has caused many people to turn off the TV and internet news.

          It is surprising to me that Sinophobia was acceptable, and it took a chain reaction of all of the above to trigger whatever people it did.

    • 陈卫华是我的英雄
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      21 year ago

      Screwing around in Georgia would be a historic mistake for the NATO. Supplies from the EU will never reach them (not that they have much left anyway) and Turkey and Isn’treal do not hate Russia enough to truly intervene, Georgian military is a joke. The Georgian military is so lame and unmodernized that their “foreign legion” mercenaries could probably beat the shit out of them, and the “foreign legion” is having a pretty tough time in Ukraine already. NATO’s best bet would be to have Georgia as a hostile threat to Russia, but not a real belligerent.

      • @Shrike502
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        21 year ago

        The goal isn’t for them to defeat the Russian army. The goal is to create chaos. If they, for example, start shelling Abkhazia then the Russian military would have to respond, thus either starting another mobilization or drawing resources away from Ukraine. Sure the Georgian military might get rekt, but that doesn’t matter to the beneficiaries of the war - they are far away and making a bank.

        Plus it would likely help to further dissent within Russia, especially among the younger generations.

        Also, while Turkey and Israel may not directly intervene, I would still expect them to be selling arms. Never let a good crisis go to waste if you can make a buck

  • DankZedong A
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    People over here like it because free border crossing, one currency and it’s easy. I don’t think anyone really knows what the EU actually does. It’s that simple for many people, they don’t think about it too much.

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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    221 year ago

    In Poland majority of people like EU because we are the biggest beneficients of EU funds. We are in very strategic place between Germany and Russia so they simply bribed entire country just like that. For example EU subsidies to agriculture did a helluva number to our agriculture, and there is basically no infrastructure or social project which is not partially invested by EU - without EU there would be very little infrastructure or social programs, like before 2004.

    Also, our country is such an obscurant rightwing cathofash hole that EU is seen by all libs and succdems as being very much left of our status quo - and they are still correct with that, though Ukraine war is slowly starting to change that view (but our entire mainstream is even more proukrainian than EU).

    The only people against EU are communists, libertarians and various alt-right. Conservatives and protofash whine about it all the time, but it’s insincere, at least until the cash will stop flowing in.

  • 小莱卡
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    191 year ago

    Ppl idolize Europe because the media we consume idolizes European culture at such point that the very adjective ‘cultured’ basically means you are into european culture like classical music, european history, shitty poems, etc…

  • @supersolid_snake
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    191 year ago

    Because it’s a garden keeping out the weeds/ jungle or whatever that reincarnation of Goebbels said. The EU is just a line which means, outside of these lines is where we do the exploitation…which is ironic because the US is now exploiting them.

    • @redtea
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      111 year ago

      I think you’re right. ‘Fortress Europe’ is quite effective at making it’s inhabitants feel safe. (Obviously except for the English, who seem to place more faith in racist politicians and the Channel.)

      The EU hasn’t been shy about exploiting it’s own citizens, though. Due to the rules on internal tariffs, the EU also allows internal super exploitation. It may even be one of its core functions.

      The four freedoms, iirc, of goods, services, capital, and people can be interpreted favourably by ordinary people, as @DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml, because people with the resources find it very easy to go on holiday, migrate, etc. Or even get involved in some super exploitation themselves, because ‘modest’ savings for a German, say, could go a long way in Greece.

      The flip side is… Capital can move to the EU member state with the lowest wages (which can fluctuate, but tends to be the eastern and southern states, a minute of the global model). This also gives capital the freedom to move if workers unionise and demand or ‘secure’ high wages in one country.

      Where capital cannot be moved (e.g. agricultural land) workers from member states with lower wages (e.g. Bulgaria) can be hired in their home state, then shipped to the immovable capital (e.g. a farm) in higher income member states (e.g. France). Wherever the work is completed, the goods can be shipped or services provided to other member states, with no tariff penalties.

      • @CountryBreakfastOP
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        91 year ago

        It baffles me that someone might take a peak at Greece only to say “oh HELL yes. Sign me the fuck up for the EU!”

        Even without looking under the hood of the EU, if Greece’s situation isn’t a red flag idk what is.

        • @redtea
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          61 year ago

          I suppose the people who do the signing up are on the giving end of what Greece received. And the ordinary people believe the lies that they’ll be treated like the Germans and the French. (Again, without looking under the good, though, because the EU is not generally good for workers even in the wealthier member states.)

        • @Shrike502
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          41 year ago

          They probably think Greece’s problems are because “they’re lazy” or “because of socialist government”. You know, the one that isn’t socialist at all, but had the audacity to maintain some measly social programs

          • @knfrmity
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            41 year ago

            Some idiot I happen to work with told me last year that the European Central Bank couldn’t raise interest rates because if they did Greece’s debt would be unpayable. And obviously it’s Greece’s fault alone that they have debt problems - can’t pay it, don’t borrow it.

            Anyway, Vanis Yaroufakis as ECB director when.

      • @knfrmity
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        71 year ago

        I’ve had this thought before and maybe written it here at one point.

        In terms of economics, the EU has managed to rather quietly achieve the inter-European imperialism which the Nazis sought to achieve. Between the internal super exploitation which you so well summarized and the other pro capital functions of the EU, all but European capitalists wildest dreams have been made true. The single currency zone exacerbates the labour cost differences which already existed, and the EU as well as all of its member states must enact neoliberalism as state policy.

        • @redtea
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          61 year ago

          Yep, neoliberalism is embedded in its ‘constitution’. It cannot be reformed at all without making an entirely new institution, at which point it’s no longer ‘reform’.

          What the EU did to Greece, with the (reluctant?) complicity of the Greek left was a tragedy.

          Ireland is another example. Taxpayers indebted to the tune of millions after the housing crisis with no democratic input. Then Dublin is turned into a tax haven. And neither EU nor UK politicians give a fuck about understanding the Troubles so long as their cash keeps flowing.

  • @Navaryn
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    111 year ago

    only people who aren’t in the EU like the EU

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      Oh you’d be surprised, most of the petty privileged people in the EU are very pro-EU, it was even the hill the “moderate left” (imperialist neoliberals with some sprinkles) died on only a few years ago