I don’t really know how Lemmy works.

  • Star Wars Enjoyer A
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    2 years ago

    i’m not sure exactly what I am and am not allowed to say, so I won’t list any names.

    but i’m pissed off that Catra’s been banned for being mean to a colonizer, but the colonizer only got one of their comments removed and nothing else. IMO feeling and expressing rage towards a colonizer is justified as long as it doesn’t go too far. And I don’t think Catra went too far.

    I can’t critique how Lemmy moderates too much, it’s not my instance to make calls on. But they really need to stop being hypocritical in how they do moderation. A person can spew reactionary bullshit and be fine, but if someone gets angry about it the angry person gets punished? fuck no.

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      The piece of shit was basically saying that natives need to get over it and that whites won fair and square. Just incredible.

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        Also reducted entire decolonisation issue to “i want to defend my home”. He stepped on this turboindividualism so hard i don’t even know if he talked about his settler state or really just his personal house lol.

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      I think comments made as ourselves, as people, are fine. They’re just our personal opinions. What I wouldn’t want (personally, but I think the admin team feels the same) is to start outing people or taking an admin stance that was not previously discussed. Also users deserve to have us be transparent with them.

      For anyone out of the loop, the way lemmy works currently (can be changed in further releases) is that you see which admins took a decision from federated instances. So yes, we know exactly who is doing what on other instances, including lemmy.ml. But it would set a very, very bad precedent if we started outing their names. Essentially would make moderation impossible for absolutely everyone that uses Lemmy.

      We should not facilitate witch hunts but we should also not prevent the community from expressing themselves on lemmygrad.

      As lemmy.ml is not our instance we will also not tell you how to behave there. It’s not our responsibility. But we have discussed looking at the behaviour of people from outside the instance so we will also do that on lemmy.ml as relevant.

      As for me, I was banned temporarily and told “an admin of a [active] instance should know [to behave] better” but apparently only my presence on lemmy.ml should be taken into account? I have no idea what they’re doing over there and I’m not sure what it’s gonna resolve to if this keeps going like this.

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        In the wolfballs guy thread the discussion was heavy in the direction of “their behaviour on the other sites should be taken into consideration”, though that was ultimately cut short by the guy going mask off right there, so i wonder if that would be used to lock us here since someone apparently don’t like lemmygrad so much he repeatedly told me to leave lemmy and come here for suggestion that leftists should not tolerate blatant NATO lies as “news” (i assumed that someone with Fidel pfp would be at least antiimperialist if not comrade).

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    • AgreeableLandscape☭
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      Also: does that mean you’re only ever allowed an account on one instance? If you have accounts on multiple instances (one per instance) and get banned on one, you’re evading a ban by having the others?

      I wouldn’t call it ban evasion unless you were specifically using your other account in that way, rather I think most instances will ban all of a person’s known accounts if they’re banning them, but that’s definitely not a hard and fast rule. Pretty sure there are some instances that don’t even prohibit ban evasion.

  • stasis
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    2 years ago

    probably, not surprising coming from him.

  • nutomic@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Yes I banned that user, because he consistently broke the site rules, and even kept breaking them after receiving a one week ban. Its really simple, if you dont follow the rules there will be consequences, if not other users will also be encouraged to imitate such bad behaviour.

    The way rules work is pretty simple. Whenever you post in a community ending in @lemmy.ml, you are a guest on that instance and need to follow the rules in the sidebar, or face the consequences.