**Basically just a discussion thread about Xi Jinping’s relection that happened recently. **
Personally I’m super pumped, he’s been doing good with the goals he sets and him getting re-elected will piss westoids off. Thoughts? Comments? Images of Xi checkin the cooking? This is the thread.
Xi: serves third term after two periods of massive growth and growing popularity
The West: dictator!!! Evil commie man!!!
Mark Rutte, The Netherlands: serves fourth term after running country into the ground, being involved in countless scandals, after resigning three times and very little support
The West: beacon of democracy!!!
My serious thoughts?
Good. I hope Xi and the CPC can continue their massive project and beat the West to death further. He has my critical support and I trust him to be a very capable leader in these tough times.
Seconded, I don’t think the CPC is taking the decision lightly at all to re-elect him and it’s perfectly within the realm of democratic centralism to motion to remove the term limit from the CPC constitution at a congress, which I understand to be the CPC constitution and not the PRC constitution so there are no term limits described in the PRC constitution. So a gross mischaracterization by western media.
But what could be worrying is the election of (6 new members to) the standing committee, I personally dont see anything nefarious about this but perhaps it would look better if there were space between the two elections so theyre seen as independant of each other but I don’t see a possibility that the outcome would differ, Xi’s theories were enshrined in the constitution and he’s the 1st leader to have that happen within their lifetime, to then elect someone other than Xi to implement (MLM-Deng Xioping-Xi Jinping Thought) and continue to lead China with strength and prosperity would be ludicrous
Two of the six standing committee members are from the last cohort.
Its only good when White Civilized World be dictatorship
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
General secretary serving any number of terms through democratic centralism is literally how things are supposed to work. Don’t let yourself to be led by western narratives.
Term limits are bullshit and JUST a cultural run off from when the GOP was getting their dumb shit pushed in by FDR.
Term limits arent a problem.
If it werent for Republicans managing to institute term limits and gerrymandering; the US would nominally be democrat absolutism.
Frankly; if the dems had a working program to include the heartland and rural areas; there would be no republicans.
But… They’re dumb as shit. So. 🤷♂️
The dems raised more money when trump was president, threatening people with fragile majorities also helps, we need your money or else the other fascists might win and look what they did last time.
I hate them so much.
I’ve thought about this back a few years ago with the constitution rewrite. Xi’s third term was practically guaranteed at that time barring a coup.
Term limits are definitely not bullshit. They are immensely useful in limiting the powers of a leader, which in general is good for the country. Deng Xiaoping wrote term limits into the constitution so that no one after him will hold power for too long, increasing the risk of them doing too much harm.
Indeed, Chinese leaders are pulled through the ranks, and only those with immaculate cv’s have a chance at holding the ultimate office, but power corrupts, and extreme power extremely corrupts. They can keep their vision in sight for 10 years, but after numerous decades they could lose themselves and become tired, and hence become corrupt, indulgent, and short sighted. Take the Tang dynasty emperor Li Longji. He did a wonderful job at the start of his reign, improving the lives of many citizens and bringing the country to another level (kaiyuan era). But then he lost that drive and listened to music all day and during the tianbao era lots of bad things happened as a result.
Another thing is term limits help force retirement at a sensible age. I myself have no problem with Xi’s third term, as he is doing great and there is a lot of stuff he hasn’t finished yet and which are extremely beneficial to the country. But if he takes a fourth term, he will be old. Really old. Look how Biden is doing. Look at how confused Hu Jintao looks right now. People like that need to make way for the next generation, but without limits in place they likely won’t release their power, especially if they are old and confused, especially if power has corrupted them for quite a while.
I don’t know about you or others, but I definitely know myself. When I go to stuff like recreational skating, I have fun and then skate until I collapse, unless there is a time limit and I get kicked out after 2 hours. Is it good for me to overexert myself, causing blisters and muscle aches and stuff? Definitely not, but at that moment I’m just so caught up I don’t want to leave. Just one more lap, try one more thing. Sure I have shit self control, but I’m sure Xi Jinping feels the same way when he eventually thinks about leaving office.
When we are kids, are parents drag us away. Adults are expected to exert more self control, but we might be able to do so for normal things, but immense political power is to the grown man as halloween candy is to the child. Self control at that level is way too much to ask; after all our leaders are still human, not demigods.
Of course de facto term limits could be imposed. A retirement age perhaps (Xi is ignoring the 67 retirement tradition so something more enforceable). Since it is unlikely someone young makes it to party secretary then a suitable retirement age effectively limits their term length.
what you are saying is that there must be ways to remove corrupt and incompetent leaders from office. i completely agree. these methods can exist independently of term limits, whether term limits exist or not.
Agree. Either way, if Xi is the right choice right now, so be it. The world is at a pivotal point right now and China needs the absolute best in power.
Strongly recommend anyone wondering if the “unprecedented third term” is a cause for concern to head over to weibo and look at what Chinese citizens are saying.
West just spinning away again.
What are they saying?
Bro, we shouldn’t wear the “china bad” goggles and have a pessimistic view on things, but we shouldn’t be immensely naive either. Weibo in general is a shit gauge for public sentiment. The government will heavily censor stuff, PR companies will pay to censor some things and promote others (to promote or demote certain celebrities and consumer choices), and then there are the hordes of under educated and radical feminists, nationalists, racists, etc.
I feel that the r/sino subreddit and the old genzedong subreddit and this lemmygrad are actually a lot better to gauge sentiment. Most people here don’t have china bad prejudice, and are educated, and have seen the world (either lives abroad or has vpn, has okay english ability so can consume foreign content). Opinions and viewpoints formed by people like this actually makes sense and is logical. Most of the opinions, if allowed, on Weibo (also Douyin), are conceived “just because”, and they can’t really find any solid arguments as to why.
I’ve had my fair share of discussions with people on Weibo and Douyin (mostly non-political, as political stuff is discouraged), and I give an argument and they reply with slogans or arguments filled with fallacies, and do not rebuttal any of my points.
Unfortunately intellect is a scarcity anywhere, China included. If I get the chance I definitely want to revamp the education system in China. Make high school mandatory and free. Provide free lunches and uniforms so school isn’t cost prohibitive. Give non-Beijing|Shanghai|Guangzhou|Shenzhen schools the same great teachers, buildings, equipment. Okay I stray far. Main idea: analyzing weibo sentiment is great for appeasing certain groups of people, but horrible if you want to make the right decision.
I’ve had my fair share of discussions with people on Weibo and Douyin (mostly non-political, as political stuff is discouraged), and I give an argument and they reply with slogans or arguments filled with fallacies, and do not rebuttal any of my points.
It’s almost like the internet anywhere else in the world where you have to be selective about who you listen to 🤔
You make some fair points but if you’re trying to tell me that I should look to reddit as the best place to find Chinese opinions I’m just gonna have to back away slowly, cheers.
angela merkel served four terms.
And her party was never voted for by a majority.
Western media pushes narrative against the democratic will of the people part 57
I hope he’ll have a lifetime like Tito!
And the one after him to be like or greater than him.
I heard in western media that there was no women anymore in one of the highest instance… How true is that and if true what could that mean?
Funny thing is that when I heard about it they said it was a first time in the history of the PRC which is pretty glorious so far, and might indicate that it is only a statistical fluctuation. But of course they are going to make it sound like Chyna is destroying feminism
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This is exactly the answer I expected, and I’m very happy about it
Thank you comrade
Why are liberals suddenly mad about this?
Wasn’t China supposed to be a communist dictatorship with 0 freedoms anyway?
Everyone would make a even bigger fuss if Xi wasn’t voted in anyway
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