I’ve really been considering as an American because of how far right and anti worker everything is

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    Living in Hong Kong, I’m just counting the days to 2047.

    I may be living and working in a capitalist hell of a vestigial scab that’s formed over the surgical wound where a bit of British Empire was excised, but I’ll be retiring in a socialist city.

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    DPRK. People seem to treat it like a pipe dream, but I’m learning the Korean language and am planning on getting there somehow. Foreigners can study Korean Language and Culture at Kim Il Sung University and I plan to do that. If I could establish permanent residency teaching English after that, I’ll do it in a heartbeat. If not, I’ll try to establish residency in Yanbian, Korean Autonomous Prefecture in the PRC so I’m at least close, and China rocks, too.

    I’m too young and broke, though. There are certain things I need to do first that require time and money I don’t and might never have, especially accounting for the expedient disintegration of whatever vestige of the illusion of democracy there is in the U.S. and the potential for future repression and emigration restrictions.

    Comrade KiG made a good point about culture shock, difficulties adjusting, etc. and I feel that. This may sound LARPy, idealistic (in the colloquial sense) or like serious Koreabooism or whatever, but if they would ever have me, I would be ready for a complete subsumation into a collectivist mindset and the complete destruction of whatever so-called Western individualist values I have. I would immerse myself in their culture, their language, their ideals. I’m aware that I could never be truly Korean, but I would gladly, GLADLY dispel myself of consumerist, nihilistic Statesian brainrot and devote myself to assisting in their socialist construction project in whatever way I could, and remain deeply respectful of the Korean people and the Korean culture.

    edit: further dream is to return to a non-fascist North Amerika and work with the KFA (Korean Friendship Association) or whatever diplomatic agency may exist in the future on establishing an embassy and bilateral relations with the DPRK. much more of a long shot, but it’s a bright future where this could be a reality.

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      #lifegoals That’s the dream comrade

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      Socialist America…one day soon! Although it’s so strange to try and imagine.

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        Future Socialist America 💪💪 DPRK

        Fascist quislings and violent occupiers of the south 🧱🔫🔫🔫🔫

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        Thank you for all the excellent sources and information comrade. My language studies are going ok, I’ve been at it for about 3 months – I can read 조선글 phonetically quite well and know very basic vocab. Very soon I will be attending a Korean culture and language program in my area (hosted through a church) and have decided today to start utilizing the refold method mentioned by comrade @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml below as Duolingo, Lingory, etc. aren’t quite cutting it. Intensive immersion it is haha. The culture and language program is exciting because it’s partnered with the local college and I might get college credit for it to put on a resume for if and when I’m able to apply for Kim Il Sung University, although I’m not currently in school. It’s also ridiculously cheap at $50/semester for what it is.

        Young Pioneers was actually one of my first ideas, they do a great thing and I definitely plan to get into contact with them as soon as I am comfortable speaking Korean… it would be utterly phenomenal to one day become a guide or guide’s assistant. I will also have to look into Krahun more thoroughly!

        I like the KFA as they are officially recognized by the DPRK as a diplomatic mission, but I’m also not entirely sure what they do in the U.S. if I’m being honest. I’m sure it’s not hard to find out, I just haven’t yet.

        edit: writing system name

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            Technically technically 조선글*. But you’re right. I’ve had to rely on calling the system 한글 when talking to local Korean people about it (there is a cultural-ideological divide present, and these individuals are definitely not communist or even friendly to the DPRK – can’t precisely confront them on it as a white westerner who they are helping learn) as well as non-communists generally, not to mention every damn teaching aide online referring to it as such without even mentioning 조선글.

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    Well, yes and no. I’m learning Chinese to move to China, but I won’t stay there permanently, a few years at most. I know this is silly, but I love my country. No matter how bad it gets, I couldn’t live anywhere other than Brazil for too long. I want to stay here and fight to make it a better place.

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      I hate my country, but I get homesick quickly and could never live anywhere else sadly. Wish I could move away

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      I plan on doing exactly the same thing. Live in China for a few years, if possible, but eventually come back to fight reactionaries in my home country.

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    I’m trying to learn Chinese, but yes seeing life expectancy rocketing downwards in every western “democracy” should be a wake up call for those living there.

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      How difficult is it to start? Also is Mandarin the official dialect? I know “Chinese” is a combination of several dialects so is learning Chinese like learning several languages all at once?

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        Its not difficult to start, you just gotta find a good system and stick with it. I’m a fan of the refold method, I just need to devote more time to it.

        When people say chinese, they generally mean Mandarin, just one language.

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    I’d love China or Vietnam. But I don’t think I’d move really. I’ve got my two countries over here where I’m trying to get socialism started and I don’t want to leave what I’m doing really.

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    Any one that would take me but idk if it’s possible because I don’t have any higher education degree (dropped out twice). I’m okay at learning languages but not at staying in school.

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      Don’t let that hold you back. You don’t need gate keepers giving you permission to live your life how you want to.

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    For a while I thought about Vietnam, then I broke the “China bad” fog and realized China seems awesome. Then I realized it’s incredibly hard to move there, and even if I could it would be tough as shit learning to read, write and speak a non-Latin language. Not to mention that’s so far away from home and even if I could somehow manage to get my close loved ones to come with me I would still probably miss America beyond all rational sense. So then I’ve wondered about Latin America like Cuba or Venezuela, Spanish would certainly be much easier to learn and adjust to. I also feel like I know little to nothing about Eastern culture, history, customs etc. I mean I love Confucianism but yeah it would definitely be a very different world to wrap my head around that I would have to learn a LOT more about before I felt like…not a stupid asshole for just trying to show up at.

    But that’s just speculation, in reality I’ll probably just have to deal with what I’m served. I’m not sure where I could convince other people to move to or where I/we would even have an opportunity to move. I know some people close to me want to move to Germany and I’m like…yeah that’s not a whole lot better…but realistically it has a brighter future ahead of it in the next 50 years than America does, at least going off my amateur speculation. I could never move to another country by myself and abandon everyone else. Or, at the very least, I would have to essentially lose everybody and everything or super mega manic or otherwise in a bad/weird place for that to happen.

    I also go back and forth between “stay and fight for your home” versus “escape and enjoy life, don’t be stupid.” I don’t know.

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      I also go back and forth between “stay and fight for your home” versus “escape and enjoy life, don’t be stupid.” I don’t know.

      The Bad News is the latter is going to get much harder as more people living under capitalism wake up to the reality of their situation.

      The Good News is the former is going to get much easier as more people living under capitalism wake up to the reality of their situation.

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        Yeah, I mean hey if Brother Xi & Friends want to unload a couple [REDACTED] at the [REDACTED] when shit is spicy I think we might actually have a good chance. I mean hey even ragtag groups like ISIS flustered the seemingly omnipotent behemoth American military, and things have only gone downhill for American supremacy since then. I also am waking up to the idea that a lot of American fascists are LARPer cowards who will buckle the second they don’t have odds overwhelmingly in their favor.

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            I might have misremembered something…but I definitely remembered reading about one of the big name Islamofascists and how they can fluster big conventional militaries. Either ISIS or America might have been switched with something else in my memory. It didn’t touch on popular support IIRC, it was mostly just talking about getting big bang for buck, destroying extremely expensive equipment with relatively low tech cheap equipment.

            Hopefully with war and all its misery and insanity rubbed directly in their faces, even the vehemently anticommunist Western civilian populations will wake up and join us.

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    I’m a masochist so I moved to a hyper-capitalist country to try to help build socialism here.

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    i have thought of moving to china or dprk, but its incredibly hard to get there. Also i feel like i should stay in my current country to be part of the inevitable revolution

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    I’m graduating this year with a master’s in telecommunications.

    Many of my classmates have done their projects with Huawei. Could be a chance to find work in China and move there.

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    I’m not planning to move out, but I’ve always wanted to work abroad. I have this little fantasy that I’d vlog life outside of my country, first in a capitalist nation and second in a socialist one, in hopes that maybe some people will be radicalized. I guess if everything goes well and I got very lucky, in around five years I hope I would be working in China (or Russia, I know its a capitalist country but I want to visit Lenin’s mausoleum and my dad is weirdly pro-Putin so it wouldn’t be hard to ask for his blessing before I left)

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    Cuba or China or Vietnam. But I know Spanish.