• Rye
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

    Look how legit this author is. Broke the events of My Lai Massacre, Watergate, the bombing of Cambodia, Abu Ghraib prison. Winner of the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. What surprised me the most how much norway, sweden and denmark were willing to participate

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        Man, I hope he stays safe. There are probably a lot of people in Washington upset at him right now.

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      “Deep State” Academic Aaron Good considers Hersh a CIA asset. I was going to comment this earlier today, but now Aaron has spoken about the story himself: https://twitter.com/Aaron_Good_/status/1623473032332210177?s=20

      He suggests that Hersh is getting CIA intel from a camp within the ruling class that opposes the proxy war with the Russians. Mind you, all camps within the ruling class have people inside corporate boards, media rooms, elected governance, the military, and the State Department institutions. It’s likely that Hersh’s source was a plant on Biden’s team to begin with.

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    Seymour Hersh was well respected until he published a bin Laden story that said Zero Dark Thirty was made up.

    NBC even confirmed one element of the story but then backtracked because media was outraged that Hersh would suggest that bin Laden’s death wasn’t the heroic tale everyone made it out to be.

    He also published an article saying the chemical attack on Ghuta in Syria was done by insurgents.

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      The supposed killing of bin Laden was probably fake, most likely he and Ayman AZ died of old age

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    So, now what? I mean the US is now shown it can basically do whatever it wants, even against European allies.

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      I think if things get bad in Europe, then eventually some intelligence agencies could leak that it really was US that was behind the attack. This would create a political crisis in Europe, and might cause a split in NATO. Especially likely if US cuts and runs in Ukraine leaving Europe holding the bag.

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    So the US had some of its European puppet states directly involved in the bombing and then later the whole thing is somehow leaked. What an interesting turn of events!

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      Technically this was an act of war against Germany. I’m becoming convinced that fucking over German industry was a major goal behind the war.

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        Washington has always been terrified of Russia and Germany becoming economically integrated with each other.

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          And instead they managed to create an alliance between Russia and China which is even more powerful. If Germany wasn’t ruled by a US puppet regime then they could’ve been part of that.

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            Because when you remove the primitive teritory grab ambition, Russia and Germany are natural allies, Germany have Europe most powerful industry and one of the best infrastructures while Russia have resources and food Germany needs, they are also quite close and have good access through Baltic. It almost happened once btw even between pretty much hostile governments (Treaty of Rapallo), and it shown signs of happening again in XXI century. So it’s also only natural that any outsize power keen on dominating Europe (UK and then US) need to break this potential alliance hard.

            PS. it happened even with landgrabs and without industry once, in the Holy Alliance which grabbed Europe hard for decades.

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                Depend how you define “ally”. Since Germany is in NATO, military alliance is out of the question, but up to last year the prospect of serious economical alliance was real. And that would undermine NATO itself by increasing Germany control over EU and eroding USA influence.

                Or at least everyone thought this is happening, but it turned out that the german elites with Merkel on the lead were and are in fact american compradors who only opportunistically wriggled under in the USA boot, because what i just wrote paragraph above would be in best interest of Germany, yet what happened is the opposite.

                I doubt they can now turn around, but if the current government was toppled by protest and something less compradory emerged (idk if that’s possible, extent of US inflitration of german political class could be much worse than i suspect, i was terribly wrong about it last year), they could again ride both sides which would be more beneficial to both Germany and Russia. Eventually it will happen anyway, but as everything moving in Europe, it can only move either with NATO consent or when NATO wane. So it’s all again come to the USA being the pillar of global imperialism, just as Che Guevara said 70 years ago.

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        Michael Hudson, an economist, said the Russia beef is really just the US trying to keep Western Europe particularly Germany under its sphere of influence.

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    Liberals: Waow that was sooo unexpected!! No one could have predicted it was the US all along!! 🤯🤯😱😱

    Leftists and other people who actually knows their stuff: 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

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      I mean who could have possibly guessed that a country with the history of terrorism, the motive, and the means would take out the pipeline. It’s not like US bragged that they would do it and then brag about doing it after or anything.

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    how did I not know sy hersh has a substack?!?!?!

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      He just made it, he has another story explaining why he’s on substack and why this isn’t in MSM.

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        "I’ve never been interested in socializing with pols or cozying up to money types at the self-important cocktail get togethers—the star-fucking parties, I always liked to call them. "