Or, when are you Germans going to realize that the other western countries mean you no good?
in the first six months of the full-scale war
six months of the full-scale war
full-scale war
does this man know what “full-scale war” means
It’s when you don’t use miniatures
There was a short period where I wasn’t sure what was happening in this war.
But I now believe again Ukraine is slowly dying.
They can send as much equipment as they want, it won’t replace the soldiers needed to operate it.
Unless they start sending soldiers. Polish ones are already on the ground
Didn’t Britain sent troops too?
I think so? There’s “volunteers” for sure
I think i remember article about SAS operating in Ukraine.
I know Canada had some “volunteers” sent over, one of them being that sniper guy, but I don’t think a full army was sent. As @juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml has said, there may be a little bit of sense left in Ottawa to not send troops.
Well I didn’t say the troops will go in an official capacity. Ukraine is already using plenty of NATO esque gear, what’s another bloke in camo, Bulgarian AK and a tactical helmet?
I think the general population was okay with weapons being sent (not so much anymore) because it felt inconsequential. If the government shipped over actual human beings then I feel like there would be an uproar because now it feels real, now people will lose their children, spouses, cousins, siblings, etc. Sending killing machines to prolong a war? Totally fine. Sending over our own citizens to die? Absolutely not.
What if they cook up a PMC or a “foreign legion” and send some “undesirables”?
there may be a little bit of sense left in Ottawa to not send troops.
Counterpoint: they have to uphold proud tradition of Dieppe to be send to death on behalf of the bigger anglo.
I would be so embarrassed if the military willingly let themselves be used as fodder for a proxy war. I personally do not see that as honourable, protesting against being shipped off would be more courageous to me…
As regards US troops at least, I think there’s still just enough sense left in Washington to realize that would be a Very Bad Idea. And the American public almost certainly wouldn’t go for it at this point.
Then again, who knows what the lunatics we have in charge will do.
It’s exactly like Starship Troopers, they boast about the equipment being sent over, the improved tactics and the great leadership but not a word about the heavy casualities being suffered.
Russia managed to play this brilliantly in my opinion. They kept ratcheting up pressure slowly and methodically which resulted in the west providing a slow dribble of their military assets to Ukraine over a period of a year. This is slowly demilitarizing NATO given that the west lacks industrial capacity to replace what they’re sending without making any significant impact on the war. If NATO went all in from the start that could’ve been a real problem from Russia, but instead NATO got sucked into a war of attrition that it’s now losing.
This is slowly demilitarizing NATO
Russia did say its goal was denazification…
And they are already whining that they can’t produce that much missiles since Ukraine is using them too much and that USA’s stockpile will be crippled this year lol
Somehow the mental image of Ukraine doing what it does best, being an hyperactive child that just sees the pile of sweets, and US being the exhausted parent trying to teach that child that money doesn’t grow on trees is very funny.
Literally this lmao
Seems to be working as intended.
Depends on what he means.
Maybe when he says “learn from their history” he’s just saying that this time the Germans will genocide the Slavic people “properly” by making them do it to each other instead of invading themselves, the way the US did it with the Native Americans.
by making them do it to each other instead of invading themselves
Or both, like in Yugoslavia
Headline coulda been written in 1938 by an actual Nazi
Honestly something very similar probably was lol
Instead, it’s written in 2023 by an actual Nazi
Touché
Yes, if Germany learned from its history it should totally give tanks to OUN again. Worked great the last time.
“To expunge our Nazi Past, we must fight side by side with Ukrainian fascists against the Russian army. Come on and tell me that doesn’t make any sense.”
Considering history, it is wise for Germany to stay the fuck out of Ukraine.
Also what is the German government’s stance on Ukraine? I know they’re in a weird spot between supporting NATO completely and keeping the heat on. I have no idea what they’ve been up to now.
Germany wants to send tanks to Ukraine if the USA also sends tanks.
German leadership recognizes who benefits if Europe sacrifices all its weapons for a proxy war started for America’s interests in the first place
What is with the circlejerk over tanks lately, like specifically tanks? That’s not some war changing weapon, that’s basic equipment for a modern military. Is this the media’s way of telling us that Ukraine is almost completely exhausted?
I think that’s exactly it, complete desperation. The javelins were supposed to turn the tide; then the HIMARS were; now it’s the tanks. A few months ago, the general opinion among military people seemed to be that sending modern tanks to Ukraine was a bad idea, because the Ukrainian crews hadn’t been trained to operate them. Now Ukraine is seriously depleted (blame their “let’s fight a war of attrition against a much bigger enemy” tactics), and the west has to send them something or risk having Ukraine fight with only small arms. So Ukrainian tank crews are now going to go into battle with a mere six weeks’ training, on machines that normally take about a year to learn to operate properly. It’s a recipe for disaster, in that they may very well end up killing themselves (these things are dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing) without any Russian help whatsoever.
Western help is all kinds of werid. If you assume they want Ukraine to win anyway. What they want is for this shitshow to go on for as long as possible, of course. And a ton of corpses.
Ukronazis get all sorts of artillery and drones to strike from afar and consistently terrorize Donetsk, but i’ve lost count of videos with them advancing in pickups and shit.
advancing in pickups and shit.
Well there was that one video on RIA with a Russian soldier rescued from captivity describing how AFU are using pickups with machine guns to assault infantry positions and capture prisoners. It sounded oddly efficient
100 years and tachankas made comeback. Seriously though they never left, just transformed. Improvised armed vehicles are called “technicals” and they are used in literally all conflicts, and can be quite effective if used properly.
Just look at Lybia-Chad war
Been using pickups with mortars to drive up to some village and commit totally not war crimes since 2014 too.
About efficiency…a pickup is a pickup. Not an APC. But yeah, they’re serviceable enough to be widely used as a military vehicle platform by militants that don’t have anything better. All over Middle East, for example. Even rocket artillery is installed sometimes.
P.S. Dumb example, not really Middle East, but you get it.
Ayup. Now you have tanks to support these humvee groups. Say a tank per pickup platoon. Suddenly it’s not a joke
A tank is still an effective weapon (if you can support it). It is fast and mobile, it can kill things well and it usually takes something larger than a hand grenade from a quadrocopter to kill it in turn.
Ten tanks won’t turn the tide, but they will prolong the fighting a little more, get more people killed and more infrastructure destroyed. Plus it’s a psychological tool to put pressure on other NATO members to send more shit.
This, they had hundreds of tanks and were given 400+ tanks since February. Where have all of them gone? (Destroyed, of course, but the Western media won’t tell you that).
Ukrainian tanks meanwhile.
