What is with the circlejerk over tanks lately, like specifically tanks? That’s not some war changing weapon, that’s basic equipment for a modern military. Is this the media’s way of telling us that Ukraine is almost completely exhausted?
I think that’s exactly it, complete desperation. The javelins were supposed to turn the tide; then the HIMARS were; now it’s the tanks. A few months ago, the general opinion among military people seemed to be that sending modern tanks to Ukraine was a bad idea, because the Ukrainian crews hadn’t been trained to operate them. Now Ukraine is seriously depleted (blame their “let’s fight a war of attrition against a much bigger enemy” tactics), and the west has to send them something or risk having Ukraine fight with only small arms. So Ukrainian tank crews are now going to go into battle with a mere six weeks’ training, on machines that normally take about a year to learn to operate properly. It’s a recipe for disaster, in that they may very well end up killing themselves (these things are dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing) without any Russian help whatsoever.
Western help is all kinds of werid. If you assume they want Ukraine to win anyway. What they want is for this shitshow to go on for as long as possible, of course. And a ton of corpses.
Ukronazis get all sorts of artillery and drones to strike from afar and consistently terrorize Donetsk, but i’ve lost count of videos with them advancing in pickups and shit.
Well there was that one video on RIA with a Russian soldier rescued from captivity describing how AFU are using pickups with machine guns to assault infantry positions and capture prisoners. It sounded oddly efficient
100 years and tachankas made comeback. Seriously though they never left, just transformed. Improvised armed vehicles are called “technicals” and they are used in literally all conflicts, and can be quite effective if used properly.
Been using pickups with mortars to drive up to some village and commit totally not war crimes since 2014 too.
About efficiency…a pickup is a pickup. Not an APC. But yeah, they’re serviceable enough to be widely used as a military vehicle platform by militants that don’t have anything better. All over Middle East, for example. Even rocket artillery is installed sometimes.
P.S. Dumb example, not really Middle East, but you get it.
A tank is still an effective weapon (if you can support it). It is fast and mobile, it can kill things well and it usually takes something larger than a hand grenade from a quadrocopter to kill it in turn.
Ten tanks won’t turn the tide, but they will prolong the fighting a little more, get more people killed and more infrastructure destroyed. Plus it’s a psychological tool to put pressure on other NATO members to send more shit.
This, they had hundreds of tanks and were given 400+ tanks since February. Where have all of them gone? (Destroyed, of course, but the Western media won’t tell you that).
What is with the circlejerk over tanks lately, like specifically tanks? That’s not some war changing weapon, that’s basic equipment for a modern military. Is this the media’s way of telling us that Ukraine is almost completely exhausted?
I think that’s exactly it, complete desperation. The javelins were supposed to turn the tide; then the HIMARS were; now it’s the tanks. A few months ago, the general opinion among military people seemed to be that sending modern tanks to Ukraine was a bad idea, because the Ukrainian crews hadn’t been trained to operate them. Now Ukraine is seriously depleted (blame their “let’s fight a war of attrition against a much bigger enemy” tactics), and the west has to send them something or risk having Ukraine fight with only small arms. So Ukrainian tank crews are now going to go into battle with a mere six weeks’ training, on machines that normally take about a year to learn to operate properly. It’s a recipe for disaster, in that they may very well end up killing themselves (these things are dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing) without any Russian help whatsoever.
Western help is all kinds of werid. If you assume they want Ukraine to win anyway. What they want is for this shitshow to go on for as long as possible, of course. And a ton of corpses.
Ukronazis get all sorts of artillery and drones to strike from afar and consistently terrorize Donetsk, but i’ve lost count of videos with them advancing in pickups and shit.
Well there was that one video on RIA with a Russian soldier rescued from captivity describing how AFU are using pickups with machine guns to assault infantry positions and capture prisoners. It sounded oddly efficient
100 years and tachankas made comeback. Seriously though they never left, just transformed. Improvised armed vehicles are called “technicals” and they are used in literally all conflicts, and can be quite effective if used properly.
Just look at Lybia-Chad war
Been using pickups with mortars to drive up to some village and commit totally not war crimes since 2014 too.
About efficiency…a pickup is a pickup. Not an APC. But yeah, they’re serviceable enough to be widely used as a military vehicle platform by militants that don’t have anything better. All over Middle East, for example. Even rocket artillery is installed sometimes.
P.S. Dumb example, not really Middle East, but you get it.
Ayup. Now you have tanks to support these humvee groups. Say a tank per pickup platoon. Suddenly it’s not a joke
A tank is still an effective weapon (if you can support it). It is fast and mobile, it can kill things well and it usually takes something larger than a hand grenade from a quadrocopter to kill it in turn.
Ten tanks won’t turn the tide, but they will prolong the fighting a little more, get more people killed and more infrastructure destroyed. Plus it’s a psychological tool to put pressure on other NATO members to send more shit.
This, they had hundreds of tanks and were given 400+ tanks since February. Where have all of them gone? (Destroyed, of course, but the Western media won’t tell you that).