• SpaceDogs
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    Oof, putting someone supporting human rights on the same level as another who wants genocide is certainly a take. Considering the centrist is mostly criticizing the “leftist” kinda proves the point that there’s no such thing as centre.

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    Literally nothing the far-left wojack said is wrong and the person who made this IS a privileged piece of shit

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      The most important thing is missing: public ownership over the means of production. All he listed as “Left” can be easily coopted as we can see in the current Democrat party of the US which as we all know is neither Left nor Socialist.

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      Nowhere near comparable, but Stalin’s deportations of ethnic groups like the Volga Germans due to their cultural identity. While regrettable, it is nowhere near as repugnant and disgusting as committing genocide.

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        Nor were the Volga German deportations nearly as bad as what the US did to Asian Americans.

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      That’s the thing. These so-called centrists aren’t really centrist, they’re just closer to the center, but still right-leaning. They’re just fed propaganda to make them think they have the moral high ground. If you said this to one of them, they’d respond that killing fascists is just as bad as genociding jews. They believe that statement is moral and right.

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    Moved the discussion so far right that “treat people normally” has become far-left in this person’s mind.

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    In addition to what everybody said here, I find the conclusion ‘Fascism doesn’t work’ to be exceedingly vague at best and a trivialization at worst. At least until the mid 1940s, Fascism accomplished almost exactly what the ruling class wanted it to do: it secured capital, expanded it, and built an empire that could challenge the Soviet Union. It failed to completely destroy the Soviet Union, of course, but it looked like a very real possibility indeed in 1941. Acknowledging that Fascism did not achieve all of its goals is not going to prevent the upper classes from (fully) adopting and institutionalizing neofascism should the status quo prove insufficient; capital must expand by any means necessary.

    As for the ‘socialism/communism doesn’t work’ dead horse, I’ve addressed that at length here.

    Do not think that by acknowledging your enemies’ strengths that you are praising them.

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    I would still like to know genuinely what the centrist thinks is an acceptable far right policy.

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    ‘I support science’ therefore your identity is a delusion is what the far right guy says haha

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    “We are open to debate”

    Makes a meme shutting down any discussion about such EXTREMIST concepts like… “Black people don’t deserve to die” and “People should be able to identify as whatever gender they want.”

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    “I support science, I just ignore the fact that many of the world’s greatest scientists were/are supporters of socialism/communism.”

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    So what’s the moderate position that lies between feminism is equality and women are housewives?

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      There isnt any. Feminism doesnt condemn stay at home spouses.

      Moderates dont understand feminism and they zero in on those who are rightfully full of rage with the patriarchy bit currently lack the full language of expressing what they mean.

      These “moderates” can get deprogrammed.

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    Yeah, they believe in science just before you point out that the ideological base for socialism/communism being the DiaMat is a scientific approach

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    Man, I need to do a little rant

    I will never understand how the argument that “Socialism and Fascism don’t work”, mate, both work like a charm, if fascism didn’t work, how could Germany stand its ground for years fighting a war against multiple superpowers?. Was France, UK, Poland, and all the others countries cooperative of their regimen. How do you think the concentration camps work by magic?, you don’t know that millions of people were slaved and forced to work until dead to produce tanks, ammunition, and other things. Do you think those appeared spontaneously; out of nowhere, you may say?. No, it required a complex structure and different systems to make that calamity work.

    For real mate, if you can think by yourself and have a minimum of knowledge in leadership and work distribution, do you believe that incompetent people can achieve what Nazis achieved. You are not only ignoring historical facts, what you are talking about.

    Fascism won the war, they weakened the USSR and let the world at the ill will of the United States. Today we experience the aftermath: global recession, proxies war, the destruction of entire countries and cultures, climate change, exploitation and late stage capitalism. Even thought their countries didn’t survive the war, but their ideology has flourished at a great pace. You are the proof.

    And about socialism, well, grab a book once in your life, and read about: how the “Evil communist” found the Concentration camps, how they fought the biggest and bloodiest battles in history, how they fought the strongest and numerous parts of the Nazi army. Or, how the feudal countries that didn’t have enough food to feed their people were able to send humanity to the space, make nuclear plants and even being able to surpass the US in living conditions. Magic I suppose.

    — “Racism cuts both ways, you know, I like science a lot, one of my favorite matter is the animal behavior, like to see how wolves behave with each other, all the alpha and omega dynamic. Dolphins are also really cool, they are really friendly with humans, especially women” — “Have you seen the paint behind you, in the wall, is fantastic, why don’t you turn back for a second”.