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we banned people for constantly defending pedophilia and feeling the need to post essays concerning how the “anti-sex maoism” thing is a meme… how about you post the whole logs if you’re so confident about this shit being “reactionary”

i don’t think your use of decontextualised screenshots is fair, and i don’t think it paints an accurate picture of what the chat is like. if you are actually interested in properly chairing this people’s court, i’d like to ask that whoever is providing you these also posts the discussion around them. both the post regarding the creation of the socialistsmemes community and especially the posts suggesting a raid on genzedong were adamantly opposed by almost everyone else - mods included, as i was one at the time.

ideally i’d also like to, you know, talk to whoever’s surveilling us - in full confidence outside of both the dongistan chat and lemmygrad - but i don’t hold out much hope for that i guess. i would like them to know that it’s actually been pretty upsetting for some people in the chat to have the possibility of their posts being shared to hostile people outside the group, because at less than 100 people we’re pretty tight-knit and some of us have shared things which are quite personal. i don’t personally care how this tiny online group where we post jokes about anti-sex maoism and make fun of each other’s tastes in food comes across on here, but it is uncomfortable to realise that something you’ve posted among friends may well be screenshotted, decontextualised and posted on a random discord server or wherever so that people you’ve never interacted with can gossip about how you’re all awful people.

Satanael What you didn’t see in that conversation was that we agreed to not do it precisely because of how shitty it was. I was there and specifically said we shouldn’t do it. If thinking of harassment and not actually doing it now qualifies as harassment then I don’t know what is real harassment. BTW, I am a mod there too and actively try to tone down the community when I can.

If this is your only evidence of harassment and you are not willing to show more, then you have no real case.

Because mods dislike it

Your comment was removed unfairly. You didn’t break any of our rules with your comment, so I’ve restored it.

Though I will ask and warn that there be no “mongoloid jokes” on lemmygrad, that can be a bannable offence.

We’ve re-instated that community, as we don’t ban pan-arabists or ba’athism, and the patsoc accusation was given without sufficient evidence. However a few of their users have been harassing admins, so have been banned as a result. I don’t think that applies to every member of that community tho.

As always comrades, abide by rule 3: be respectful to others.

Okay, it seems we were working off of false info. I’ll restore the community and unban the one user for now. (and make another post)

For the record, we do not ban pan-arabism or bath’ism, and the only sectarian ban rule we have so far is no patsocs allowed.

Is this the leftist infighting everyone told me about???

That makes things more clear, thanks.

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Okay new evidence: you were trolling lemmygrad, and for that you’ve earned a site ban.

Also what the hell is “mongoloid people’s republic”, sounds incredibly racist.

I sure wish that energy could’ve been used offline.

Quick question, is it bannable too like in the certain murican hivemind places, to say that patriotism have class characteristics?

People on GZD telegram make fun of Haz/Infrared because they are patsocs. It is a joke taken out of context by admins. Most of the people who got banned were never given a reason (patsoc irony is just one). This whole situation is completely misguided and gross abuse of power.

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OYes because it didn’t been in Lemmygrad long enough. One East Asian comrade called herself a mongoloid because of racism in North America, and teenage admin banned her for being Haz fan. I think majority of dongistan community never heard for Haz, don’t spend time on “marxist” YouTubers… Also being mongoloid is related to Russians being called orcs and horde, with similar thesis as Hitler that “they ain’t pure whites, they are mixed with mongoloids”, I don’t know how you can be patsoc North American saying that if you ain’t from North America. 2nd issue was panarabism, calling Nasser and Assad fans, or just people that like idea of unified arab world because it would change balance of power in that region (regardless of race or faith, culture, it meant to include arab speaking countries, even though some had other languages used inside its community besides that, and arabic itself is not standard Arabic but have many dialacets, so that makes it “cultural genocide” if people choose to speak 普通话 alike language more then regional one). Admin never heard for baath split, assumed that cia-Israel paid Sadam Husein is one and only “pan arabist” (he was just Iraq baath party leader, nothing much panarabist there), even though Assad and Hoshni Mubarak sent their troops in Iraq agaisnt Sadam during Gulf War. Even though Syria during Assads was multi ethnic and multi seceterian /religious, while after civil war many freedom fighters (like isis and ypg your admins adore probably) many targeted, displaced, killed people because they differ. She was told all this, but emotional teenager that is all about having opinion and being right, and not knowing much about the subject (I guess because there is no marxist YouTuber talking about it, that’s starting and ending point of all marxism resources) was blind for arguments and banned everyone that defended that stance, she shared me text about “arab nationalism” as argument, page and a half long, arab nationalism in Ottoman empire… Dongistan members including me defending panarabism from being called genocidal, told her that idea is union of Arab speaking world, not exlusion of non Arabs, non sunnis inside that state. Also many of those members including me ain’t arab, neither they come from Muslim community, so idk how that can make us patsoc? Dongistan have reading club, and we had discussion about Edward Said - Orientalism, maybe that would teach your YouTuber banhammer admin about colonial legacy in middle East rather then YouTubers. Sub didn’t even lasted for 2 days, so no one could see its opinions rather then sharing memes they made about whole situation (she said something about Lybian Baath party? and thought all panarabists are Saddam supporters which is pretty rare, and nobody in dongistan supports Saddam, while there is unironic Saddam adoring sub here, even thought there is nothing socialist about it). Nobody mocks teenagers from being emotional and doing stuff like that, problem is whole ml community depends on emotional communist aisthetic driven “communist” will. Aisthetization of politics and miltiary is truly fascist supporter thing to do, that’s how Mussolini and Hitler gain popular support. Reason for a ban was “trolling GZD admins”, which really was true, but isn’t this Lemmygrad and should have rules autonomous from r/GZD sub on reddit ? Should we depend on feelings of young lady feeling ashamed when someone mocks her for being wrong and banning all around because of that (she banned whole group for some other reason, all telegram gzd general chat most active users are arbitrarly banned/kicked with given no reason for that in matter of minutes, so maybe idea was to change opinions in discussion that never stopped by changing top active users, maybe she disliked discussion there, it wasn’t American enough or something idk. Gzd general chat is dead now regarding activity).

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Yikes - anything that’s like 4chan is ultra cringe…