Original message: GenZedong users and moderators warned the Lemmygrad administration of chauvinists and people who harassed other users creating a community called Dongistan. Admins from both Discord and Telegram warned us of these reactionary elements and they were preemptively removed from the community

EDIT: We were working on the assumption that they were PatSocs, because that was the information given to us, and we decided to act upon that without further evidence. It was a mistake on our part. The community was therefore restored, but we are investigating the case further.

We are banning trolls which were harassing admins and other members inside Lemmygrad, and we’ve found out that they are a part of a group called “Horde’s People’s Republic of Dongistan” on Telegram.

  • Camarada ForteOPMA
    43·
    2 years ago

    You mean these trolls are self-contained on Telegram?

    They really aren’t. For the record, when I mention “these trolls”, I refer to the mods of that community, most people there are fine. But some mods there are disgusting, and they act very reactionary in the name of “irony”. Even some of their mods recognize the troll mods act in a disgusting manner

    • workingtechnocrat
      4·
      2 years ago

      we banned people for constantly defending pedophilia and feeling the need to post essays concerning how the “anti-sex maoism” thing is a meme… how about you post the whole logs if you’re so confident about this shit being “reactionary”

      • Camarada ForteOPMA
        22·
        2 years ago

        I should be clear that I am not trying to portray your whole community as a reactionary cesspool. I in fact was clear of that in the comment you replied to,

        For the record, when I mention “these trolls”, I refer to the mods of that community, most people there are fine. But some mods there are disgusting, and they act very reactionary in the name of “irony”.

        The fact that you have (or had?) moderators promoting pretty shady stuff, in a position of influence and authority, is what concerned me.

        You should also know that, even though in your conversations some of you have talked negatively about me and my personal life the day I posted about removing your community, I agreed to reinstate your community in Lemmygrad. And both the decision to remove and reinstate your community was a collective one, and no individual admin should bare full responsibility for it, I was only the one who posted it here.

    • glaukonome
      2·
      2 years ago

      i don’t think your use of decontextualised screenshots is fair, and i don’t think it paints an accurate picture of what the chat is like. if you are actually interested in properly chairing this people’s court, i’d like to ask that whoever is providing you these also posts the discussion around them. both the post regarding the creation of the socialistsmemes community and especially the posts suggesting a raid on genzedong were adamantly opposed by almost everyone else - mods included, as i was one at the time.

      ideally i’d also like to, you know, talk to whoever’s surveilling us - in full confidence outside of both the dongistan chat and lemmygrad - but i don’t hold out much hope for that i guess. i would like them to know that it’s actually been pretty upsetting for some people in the chat to have the possibility of their posts being shared to hostile people outside the group, because at less than 100 people we’re pretty tight-knit and some of us have shared things which are quite personal. i don’t personally care how this tiny online group where we post jokes about anti-sex maoism and make fun of each other’s tastes in food comes across on here, but it is uncomfortable to realise that something you’ve posted among friends may well be screenshotted, decontextualised and posted on a random discord server or wherever so that people you’ve never interacted with can gossip about how you’re all awful people.

      • Camarada ForteOPMA
        11·
        2 years ago

        i don’t personally care how this tiny online group where we post jokes about anti-sex maoism and make fun of each other’s tastes in food comes across on here, but it is uncomfortable to realise that something you’ve posted among friends may well be screenshotted, decontextualised and posted on a random discord server or wherever so that people you’ve never interacted with can gossip about how you’re all awful people.

        I understand your concern. I personally asked them to not share with me more screenshots, because I honestly got tired. Of course I shouldn’t reveal the identity of the people who sent me the screenshots because last we talked they wished to remain in the group, but as far as I could tell, they enjoyed the community, but were bothered by the behavior of a few moderators there. It was not a single person who sent me them.

        I should note that no context justifies some of the stuff I was sent, whether it is public or “among friends”, whether it was truly meant or “ironic”. It’s our duty to criticize reactionary tendencies among our friends, and by being silent we are just being complicit. But in respect to the privacy of your group, I will refrain from posting these screenshots further, and stick to moderating inside Lemmygrad only.