Original message: GenZedong users and moderators warned the Lemmygrad administration of chauvinists and people who harassed other users creating a community called Dongistan. Admins from both Discord and Telegram warned us of these reactionary elements and they were preemptively removed from the community
EDIT: We were working on the assumption that they were PatSocs, because that was the information given to us, and we decided to act upon that without further evidence. It was a mistake on our part. The community was therefore restored, but we are investigating the case further.
We are banning trolls which were harassing admins and other members inside Lemmygrad, and we’ve found out that they are a part of a group called “Horde’s People’s Republic of Dongistan” on Telegram.
Here’s the crux of the matter: a bunch of us got into an argument with Grace (head admin of genzedong) in the telegram group over pan-arabism (which she denounced as ‘reactionary’) and a lot of people disagreed so she decided to purge everyone who argued with her on the topic a few days later (including many other people who didn’t even participate in the convo but were associated with us nonetheless). So we decided to form our own community and do our own thing.
Unfortunately, it seems that grace and her friend zoe have been spreading lies about us to the lemmy admins and had us banned based purely on their own personal resentment towards us (the ‘patsoc’ accusation is a baseless smear, some members liked to meme about the wow_mao mongolian video and that’s literally it, accusing us of being ‘patsocs’ is simply the excuse they’re using to get us banned everywhere when the real reason is that they have personal grievances against us)
Okay, it seems we were working off of false info. I’ll restore the community and unban the one user for now. (and make another post)
For the record, we do not ban pan-arabism or bath’ism, and the only sectarian ban rule we have so far is no patsocs allowed.
ba’ased
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Mommy issues?
Banned for rule 3. Be respectful to comrades.
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We have a transparent modlog, check the reason.
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How is calling this site a larp, “venting”?
No you don’t. Seek help, we are not your mom
Is this the leftist infighting everyone told me about???
That makes things more clear, thanks.
Leftist unity? More like leftist disunity lmao
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Okay new evidence: you were trolling lemmygrad, and for that you’ve earned a site ban.
Also what the hell is “mongoloid people’s republic”, sounds incredibly racist.
mongoloid people’s republic is a reference to the wow_mao video - most of the active users are ourselves asian or slavic and so we jokingly call ourselves that. it’s also the only place online where i’ve ever been 100% comfortable with people knowing my ethnicity, and i know other people feel the same way.
also, i’m not sure why someone calling the people’s court a larp is proof of trolling? i think people should be allowed to have criticisms of lemmygrad.
If they call the whole site a LARP, insulting us and the community, they show they have no interest in respecting others, and in participating in a comradely manner. This is not merely a criticism, this is an insult, and a word like criticism shouldn’t be wasted by a superficial comment like this.
I understand most people associated with the then called “Mongoloid People’s Republic” is not a reactionary troll, but most of the admins there such as Dunwich, Akim Zhurba Zhurba, Siri Sirus Serious and AzovSlayer all act like trolls.
Don’t worry, we won’t ban those who uphold Ba’athism, Pan-Arabism, we only ban trolls and those who harass others.
i have to admit, it is somewhat ironic coming back to this comment after reading this:
is this not reactionary (as all ableism is), disrespectful and uncomradely? even if you don’t feel particularly comradely towards the horde, i’m sure you are aware that there are people who are affected by mental health issues who are reading this. your post is an insult quite a bit more cruel than someone calling this community a larp.
I am absolutely aware of that, hence why I gave the advice of therapy, in sincere good faith. I uphold the idea that everyone benefits from therapy, and I wrote that the reactionary trolls inside your community would benefit from therapy honestly from a place of concern.
I’ve seen the reactionary stuff posted inside your community, and while I am frankly disgusted by its content, I do not blame those who post it, I see them as victims of the reactionary ideology present in bourgeois society. We are all reflections of the contradictions of our society, and even I may inadvertently reproduce reactionary ideology without realizing it. But my comment is not ableist, and I didn’t mean to advice therapy as an insult, because I myself went to therapy for over an year and I benefited much from it.
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They called lemmygrad a larp, clearly not someone who has an interest in healthy engagement here.
why does a comment someone makes on a different website unaffiliated with lemmygrad warrant a complete ban from lemmygrad? i don’t think that would necessarily indicate what her behaviour would be like on here. i think many people make off-hand critical comments about the websites they use while still being able to use them in normal and respectful ways.
They called this site a larp, what’s preventing them from using another site?
i appreciate that you found the comment hurtful, but why does that warrant a ban without warning? i would understand if she was advocating for a brigade or something, but i don’t think that’s what’s going on here.
If they’re insulting our community, then it doesn’t matter if it’s inside or outside Lemmygrad, they are still responsible for what they say. If behind our backs this is what they have to say about us, why should we let them here? Their messages just show they are not interested in healthy engagement with others, they are just interested trolling and in general being disrespectful.
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People are legitimatly frustrated, but you don’t want to read my text walls…
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Saying “lol lemmygrad is such a larp”, is clearly someone who isn’t here in good faith. They can join another platform that suits them better.
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Why don’t they just join a site they don’t think is a larp then? What’s preventing them from doing that?
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Quote from Dunwich:
“lol lemmygrad is such a LARP”. source
Do you agree with that?
in my opinion this appears to be an isolated incident of a single user being really pissy, i don’t see why we should punish the whole of their community for what this one user said
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