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      He knows what he is doing. We don’t have to give plausible deniability to a genocidal fascist.

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      I’ve come to realize that the absurd beliefs of authoritarians are like a badge of honor. They’re willing to accept any untruth from their masters and will gleefully and violently enforce those untruths as a form of worship of authority.

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        Leveling accusations of authoritarianism here is kind of missing the point. As if the problem with their ideology is anything besides the fascism. It’s needless obfuscation and a liberal view of authority besides.

        Could I ask you to take a read of On Authority? It is very brief and quick reading, like 5 minutes tops.

        https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

        Hence it is absurd to speak of the principle of authority as being absolutely evil, and of the principle of autonomy as being absolutely good. Authority and autonomy are relative things whose spheres vary with the various phases of the development of society.

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          I hope you’re not seriously implying that fascism can exist without authoritarianism.

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            I’m telling you that authoritarianism is a useless word. It’s used as a pejorative against any government that the wielder doesn’t like, and it misses all the actual problems of the regime being criticized. Authority is not by itself a bad thing, you have to look at how and why it is wielded. Is the problem with fascism that there is an authority? Or is it all the fascism?

            Seriously you could argue that any country that has ever existed is authoritarian, the proper functioning of a state requires concentration of authority. It’s incredibly silly to just throw the term at whatever you don’t like. Don’t conflate authority with whatever actual problems a political ideology might have. You just end up whitewashing them.

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              Every country is a little authoritarian, and in equal measure fascist. The authority that enforces the hierarchy is the spiritual ignorance that gives rise to all of the social evils of this world. Your personal feelings about the word are totally irrelevant.

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                Every country is a little authoritarian, and in equal measure fascist. The authority that enforces the hierarchy is the spiritual ignorance that gives rise to all of the social evils of this world.

                This is pure idealistic nonsense.

                Your personal feelings about the word are totally irrelevant.

                Did you bother to read On Authority? It’s not my personal feelings, but rather actual Marxist political philosophy. It’s bizarre for you to dismiss it as irrelevant while simultaneously insisting that your own bizarre word salad is fact.

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                  It’s not idealism. It’s the nature of authority [the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience]. Every government assumes the authority to enforce its laws. Every country fails to represent fringe populations. The measure at which a country uses its authority to use violence to silence, eliminate, control, or otherwise fail to represent the fringe is it’s degree of fascism.

                  When I said “Your personal feelings” I was referring to your opinion that fascism is a white supremacist term, which isn’t based in fact at all.

                  Now how will you twist my words?

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            The western left’s use of the term fascism, is borderline white-supremacist at this point. Fascism was a form of colonialism that died by the 1940s, and is only allowed to be demonized in public discourse, because it was a form of colonialism directed also against white europeans. It was defeated, and Germany / Italy / Japan reverted to the more stable form of government for colonialism (practiced by the US, Canada, UK, Australia, France, the Netherlands, etc): bourgeois parliamentarism.

            British, european, and now US colonizers were doing the exact same thing, and killing far more people for hundreds of years in the global south, yet you don’t hear ppl scared of their countries potentially “becoming british colonialists.” They haven’t changed, and their wealth is still propped up by surplus value theft from the super-exploitation of hundreds of millions of low-paid global south proletarians.

            This is why you have new leftists terrified that the UK or US or europe “might turn fascist!!”, betraying that the atrocities propagated by those empires against the global south was and is completely acceptable.

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            It’s clear that you have no idea what fascism is.

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      West commits genocide and their slaughter of millions of innocents in the middle east - bringing freedom and civilisation to a barbaric region

      PRC de-radicalising by improving living standards, education. Affirmative action and exempt from the one child policy - GeNoCiDe

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            In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

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          Yeah they are allowed to only have three children because that is now the rule for all ethnicities in China.

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      The subtext: “we westerners (i.e., Americans, Europeans are just slow) learned from Auschwitz. Those evil Asiatic subhumans didn’t.”

      Which ironically sort of proves his point.

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    How did readers added context get so based? One of few things to thank Musk for.

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      Fun fact: lots of Nazis were Zionist. Their antisemitism included advocating for deporting Jewish people to Palestine and they worked with Zionist organizations to promote what people would now call “voluntary self-deportation”.

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        Fascilitating that was Eichmanns first job actually. The deal was the following, if jews migrated out of the Reich they lost all their property within. If they migrated to palestine they received a fraction of the worth of their forfeit property in colonialisation equipment + training.

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          There’s a quote – I’m going to try to pin it down – from somebody in the late 19th century to the effect that “Zionist poltical literature and the worst type of anti-Semitic literature are often indistinguishable.”

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    I can’t imagine posting something like this and still believing in your heart of hearts that you’re a good person.

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    The specific use of imagery to depict people as “bugs” or “insects” is textbook Nazi propaganda

    And has made an appearance in speeches by Wholesome Pro-Western Liberals like Alexei Navalny (evil Vladolf Putler sentenced him to jail just for being awesome and Reddit Gold worthy).