• olgas_husband
    12·
    10 months ago

    apparently giving people heart diseases, diabetes and colon cancer ain’t enough anymore

    • KiG V2
      302·
      10 months ago

      Mcdonalds…decadence? Oh boy

      Ignoring Russia’s materially better circumstances for their people compared to the US, even AFTER the horrific fall of socialism in the 90s, the fact remains that the country on the defense has been Russia. They’ve been assertively telling NATO to back off for 8 years now. Historically and contemporarily, communist Soviets and now capitalist Russians, have pressed for peace with the West, which has continued to try and destroy it.

      • quality_fun
        44·
        10 months ago

        how are material conditions in russia better than the us?

        • KiG V2
          3·
          10 months ago

          In short, while the USSR being couped in 1991 led to a decade of SHARPLY falling quality of life, shortly after Putin took power these trends were stopped and in some cases reversed. They retain, in many ways, much better societal amenities (healthcare, education), and on average their common people live decently–still not on par with USSR standards but much better than the 90s and better than the USA, for sure, which grows truer every day as Russia either retains what it has or improves, while USA across the board continues to decay and decay. The difference will be even more stark in the next few decades, and if socialism returns to Russia (more likely to happen sooner than a socialist United States, that is certain) the difference will be colossal.

          This is not specific to Russia and America, these trends are reflective when comparing any Western country to many non-Western ones; even the extremely impoverished countries have a much brighter long-term future than the imperial core. The rest of the world, no matter their current position, is improving, slowly and steadily, while the West, slowly but steadily, is dying.

    • Call Me Mañana@lemmy.ml
      271·
      30 days ago

      You know what? This kind of intentional boastful arrogant blusterous stupidity makes me sick and dumb (not so much as you, you can rest easy knowing that you are on a very high level in this matter) so I’ll just post this:

      CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

  • michaelrose@lemmy.ml
    252·
    10 months ago

    I don’t think anyone imagines WW2 could have been averted if only we had placated Hitler harder why should ww3 be avoidable by placating Putin?

    If anything this is ideal Russia is breaking their back on our weapons but retains a trivial route out without any declared conflict.

    If we could have convinced them this would happen ahead of time we could have avoided conflict entirely. As it stands the biggest obstacles to eventual peace is the notion that if Vlad just waits it out Republicans may regain control and collaborate.

    • DamarcusArt
      582·
      10 months ago

      If your understanding of this conflict is so braindead that you think “Putin is exactly like Hitler” and “Selling more weapons that will leave the land uninhabitable for decades is the key to peace” then you’re beyond help. I cannot overstate how stupid and ignorant you come across saying things like this. You are not immune to propaganda, even if you are about to assert that everyone who disagrees with you is “brainwashed” or a “Russian shill” as a way to protect your own ego.

      You should leave, this isn’t the place for you. The only two options are that you either get banned or you learn something new and challenge your preconceived notions. And I know how much liberals hate the latter, so just save yourself the trouble.

    • KiG V2
      531·
      10 months ago

      You have been grossly misled.

      Russia is not the Nazis, America and its vassal Ukraine are. They are the ones, after all, who always touted and celebrated Nazis, integrating them politicially and militarily with great fervor.

      WW3 was avoidable save US “interventionism.” We have been stoking conflict and suffering across the entire world for a century, including yes in both Ukraine and Russia.

      Lastly, Russia is not “breaking their back” on anything, if you have been paying attention to your pro-Western sources even they are finally meekly admitting the war has always been a disaster for them. 5 dead Ukranians for every 1 dead Russian. The economic war killed not the ruble but the dollar. US/NATO have exhausted their munitions, manpower, and money, with no viable long term strategy to recoup it. We are already halfway through WW3, and the tides are shifting. Dresden will burn and the Volkstrumpen will strangle each other for bread.

    • OrnluWolfjarl
      471·
      10 months ago

      Russia did everything it could to avert war. Not the same situation at all.

      Putin isn’t on some rampage to conquer the world for Lebensraum. Russia knows that if Ukraine joins NATO, nukes will be set up just 800 km from Moscow. If you don’t understand why this is an issue, then you don’t understand what is going on.

      • Beat_da_Rich
        22·
        10 months ago

        I barely had patience for liberals at the start of the conflict. There’s a certain amount of grace to give when a major event happens and people are trying to piece out the background after not paying attention for years. Now? That doesn’t exist anymore. Liberals are simply choosing to remain ignorant at this point when it comes to Russia-Ukraine.

      • redtea
        21·
        10 months ago

        I might use this in a bot.

        If subject Ukraine

        If user liberal

        Auto reply quote

        • DamarcusArt
          18·
          10 months ago

          It would save a lot of time, they always have the same couple of generic canned responses.

      • NothingButBits
        30·
        10 months ago

        “Doesn’t look like anything to me.”

        Libs remind of the Hosts from Westworld who would be incapable of processing certain information even when watching it. They have the “West can do no wrong” premise drilled into their heads and no amount of evidence will make them see otherwise.

      • AmarkuntheGatherer
        28·
        10 months ago

        It’s for us to read and these illiterate fucks to never find out about. Merkel and any number of people may admit it was just a stall, what liberals can’t read can’t affect them, apparently.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      36·
      10 months ago

      because Hitler believed in an ideology that ultimately logically demanded the total conquest and subjugation/extermination of all other peoples of the earth and is thus a special case.

      Putin who is not a nazi and has not at any point expressed such beliefs is not Hitler and comparing everyone you don’t like to Hitler is soft holocaust denial as it effectively minimises the Nazis crimes

    • QueerCommie
      17·
      10 months ago

      Funny how in your WWII parallel the country that banned all unions and opposition parties (including the communist party), the one who ethnic cleansed their Russian population, run by the descendents of Nazi collaborators (Bandera supporters), today’s Ukraine is your USSR.