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      it is me who wrote the megathread. The problem is in the sources, reddit removes the post automatically, i need to find the black listed source. Or i can make a doc with it and post the doc instead, idk

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        Welcome comrade from chapo! How goes the trans military struggle session?

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          Lmao everyone is a fucking brick wall and misrepresents every word I said. They have a voice in their heads that just repeats “troopsbadtroopsbadtroopsbad” and getting through that voice to reason with them on the nuance of the topic is fucking infuriating.

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            I mean, it’s imperialism we’re talking about. As a SEA comrade, I’ll tell you straight up that there are days when I give up on imperial core comrades and just say, “I will take the collapse of the US, even if comrades in the US, no matter what gender, race, etc have to suffer/die as a result.”

            On that note though, I wish comrades would stop using ACAB or ATAB and start using WSAYO (Which Side Are You On). I don’t really mean this, but I hope you get the sentiment.

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              I get it and I like it, though not necessarily for cops to be honest.

              I won’t judge people for being uninformed though. The machine is a monster, not its victims. This is extremely important, I completely agree with the fact imperialism is the primary issue however. I will let go of some of the anti-troop sentiment but it gets personal for me when people aren’t taking into account just how fucked up the lives of these trans people that join the military are.

              In addition to that they’re honestly the most likely candidates in the military to be our allies and if we ever get more leaks there is a solid chance it will be from another trans comrade who radicalises while still in the military.

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                Why not for cops? Do the bourgeoisie not need to be oppressed in socialist society?

                In addition to that they’re honestly the most likely candidates in the military to be our allies and if we ever get more leaks there is a solid chance it will be from another trans comrade who radicalises while still in the military.

                You can understand though, why this is utterly unconvincing to a GS comrade. It’s like waiting on a coin toss while millions die and even then nobody fucking knows if enough people will radicalize for it to make an impact. Better to take a collapse than brave those odds if you’re in the GS. Just as you know, it’s materialist to expect trans people to enter the military out of desperation, so too is it for us in wishing for collapse out of desperation.

                Way I see it, you cater to one side, you alienate the other. You cater to US military folks, you alienate GS folks. You cater to GS folks, you alienate the US military folks. How would you solve this contradiction?

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                  Because I think cops generally refers to a group of people who are all entirely frontline and if those people continue to be cops after seeing what they do then they have transitioned from being ignorant to being willing participants.

                  Military personnel signup for a set time and can’t get out of it if they do see or figure out the horror of what they do. The people outside the frontline literally never will physically see it and their ignorance to the fact they’re doing great evil is simply a material demonstration of how weak we are at informing the population at this point in time.

                  As for your initial question about the bourgeoisie needing to be oppressed, of course, but you’re talking about a proletarian police force now which is a completely different police force to a bourgeoise one. The class character matters.

                  I don’t think the GS people are idealist enough to get alienated by it, they’re more materialist. They can understand when you explain that “all troops bad” does not have a material effect on the military’s ability to hurt the GS. They get the value in turning them instead of engaging in gesture bullshit with no material effect… At least the ones that you would call comrade do. The general population I simply wouldn’t engage in a conversation with or consider anything to do with troops an area of debate beyond “please stop bombing us and get out of our country”. That has to be targeted at the top though for a material outcome, not the troops themselves.

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    I still doubt that, as it would bring too much attention. If they do that, they are fucking stupid.

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      I mean they already banned all my fave subs so I think they would

      I’m shocked FullCommunism has lasted this long

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        r/genzedong is still up and for the life of me I can’t figure out why. I was there all the time before stopping Reddit and we didn’t mince our words.

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          ive been of the opinion the bans may be to corral everyone into one or two subs to make it easier for the feds to monitor/infiltrate.

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            Perfectly stated. This is totally aligned with their sockpuppet operation on Reddit, Operation Earnest Voice and such.

            I would expect the bourgeois apparatus slowly infiltrating in r/communism, instead of banning it. I repeat, if they ban that, they are either fucking stupid or really desperate. In both cases, it’s a wonderful sign!

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        FC is completely closed, new accounts cant even view or subscribe to it, unless you give your phone number to Reddit.

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            Oh now its working, I can subscribe without problems. But I still had to subscribe via browser before I could access it through my reddit app. Seems like they made it less strict.

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      it would bring too much attention

      LOL. When has that ever stopped anyone? Now, it’s a different question if behind that attention, one can glimpse the roundness of a gun barrel. Example: ICE hysterectomies got attention for like 3 days? What happened after that? Nothing.

      If they do that, they are fucking stupid.

      Really? What’s going to happen to them if they do? Reddit is infested top to bottom with fascists. If anything, whatever attention they’ll get is likely to be positive from every neolib or fash who gives a shit.

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    I don’t like /r/communism or its Maoist mods but I hope that they pull through for the sake of the wider community.

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    Honestly, the persecution of communist subs can do nothing but fuel migration to services like this instead. I for one welcome it. Let communists have their own media outlets, I’m sick and tired of having to toe the line of fash adjacent reddit wankers.