Help. Being a pedophile does not mean you have done anything to a kid, and if you want to seek help for your problems, you should be able to. Just saying kill them all is an idiotic line of thought.
You’re absolutely right. However, something makes me suspect that for a whole lot of reddit, u/pornpostonalt included, “getting help” means lowering the age of consent and legalizing child pornography…
I agree with this statement. I think it’s a very complex issue made leagues worse due to the way sex is viewed in western and western influenced societies. It’s used in everything to get views, advertisements, etc. Capitalism preys upon the natural human drive to mate/reproduce and we have to realize living in a society where everything is hyper sexualized will fuck people up. There’s also a huge difference between people that are confused or just messed up from society that don’t act on whatever urges they may have and those that not only do but find pleasure out of it.
As far as actual offenders go I agree with people here that say there’s pretty much no going back from it. If they cross that line and found enjoyment out of it they will never want to stop. So I follow the path of help who you can but there are some that just cannot be.
Killing every single person that has pedophiliac thoughts would be monsterous. And of course I’m not defending pedophiles. Pedophiles who hurt children deserve a bullet or a needle in the arm.
Those who haven’t offended and are actively seeking help should be treated as human. I think executing someone over thoughts they have no control over is evil.
I agree, people who have those gross thoughts should seek help from a professional but people who actively seek or godforbid do worse to minors deserve everything that people threaten them with
It’s an uncomfortable question. Under socialism, I think non-offending pedophiles should be encouraged to discuss the issues they’re having with state-appointed counselors, and potentially interned in a (humane) facility where they can undergo evaluation and treatment - not the chemical castration, inherently psycho-pharmaceutical people think of, that should probably be a last resort. Talk therapy, DBT, etc. should be attempted first, always.
On the other hand, proven offending pedophiles should probably just be put to death. This may be the carceral-state, punishment-over-rehabilitation brainwashing talking, but I don’t think there’s any coming back from that and there probably shouldn’t be. Nigh any lens I apply to this issue comes to the same conclusion. Utilitarian? They obviously take more from the people than they give. Ethical? They inflict irreperable trauma on the most vulnerable population there is and are statistically likely to do so again.
I remember reading about a pedophile in an area controlled by Filipino communists. They asked his victim what she wanted to be done, and held a trial wherein her voice carried more weight than the rest of the people involved. They hanged the pedophile. Good.
(Note: I’m speaking as someone who endured CSA for 5 years. This is not to “lane” anyone, just context as to why I’ve personally thought about this.)
There was a case like this in the LNR back in 2014 or 2015. A soldier was convicted, by a people’s court, of raping a 12 year old girl. Since the LNR didn’t at the time have a truly functioning legal system, and couldn’t legitimately put anyone to death, the soldier was given a choice: either rot in prison for the duration of the conflict, to face sentencing during peacetime, or be sent under guard to the heaviest part of the front. He chose the latter, and I believe died in combat a couple weeks later.
Interesting. A solution like that makes sense in the midst of fighting a war against imperial aggressors. I’m not sure how it’d look during peacetime. I’d personally say that being in the socialist military, during peacetime, should be viewed as an honor rather than a punishment. I also understand that said socialist military can only exist through enduring a period of conflict. Sometimes more pragmatic approaches are needed, and it seems to me like they made the right call.
Honestly IIRC it was a comment on FB from a Filipino communist who allegedly fled after some shit went down. So not exactly a source I’d use without further investigation, but still interesting.
I’d prefer they get help but at the same time I don’t trust liberals not to try and foster an environment of total tolerance towards paedos, some of them are already trying to do this with arguments in favour of drawn CP, referring to paedos as “MAPs” or pushing the agenda of “children’s autonomy”. For that reason, I’m happy to maintain paedo-bashing until we have a proletarian state that won’t tolerate liberal bs
Some ITT have suggested the death penalty, I’m personally against the death penalty for any crime purely because the potential for error exists. If you wrongfully imprison someone, you can’t give them back the time they lost but you can compensate them to the point that they can really enjoy what time they have left whereas if you wrongfully kill someone, there’s no way to fix that at all. Even for criminals who cannot be reformed, I think the very least that can be done is to put them to work for the betterment of society and at least have the state use the lives of these people to contribute some good to society.
Agree completely, but Nitpick: don’t call it a mental asylum. Those are the lobotomy and electroshock fake hospitals that absolutely do not work nor are they based in any sort of real science or medicine. I assume you’re referring to modern psychiatric treatment for mental disorders, which should just be called that.
Would any of you rather these people get help or should they get destroyed?
Help. Being a pedophile does not mean you have done anything to a kid, and if you want to seek help for your problems, you should be able to. Just saying kill them all is an idiotic line of thought.
You’re absolutely right. However, something makes me suspect that for a whole lot of reddit, u/pornpostonalt included, “getting help” means lowering the age of consent and legalizing child pornography…
Hetchoune yemmah
I agree with this statement. I think it’s a very complex issue made leagues worse due to the way sex is viewed in western and western influenced societies. It’s used in everything to get views, advertisements, etc. Capitalism preys upon the natural human drive to mate/reproduce and we have to realize living in a society where everything is hyper sexualized will fuck people up. There’s also a huge difference between people that are confused or just messed up from society that don’t act on whatever urges they may have and those that not only do but find pleasure out of it.
As far as actual offenders go I agree with people here that say there’s pretty much no going back from it. If they cross that line and found enjoyment out of it they will never want to stop. So I follow the path of help who you can but there are some that just cannot be.
Killing every single person that has pedophiliac thoughts would be monsterous. And of course I’m not defending pedophiles. Pedophiles who hurt children deserve a bullet or a needle in the arm.
Those who haven’t offended and are actively seeking help should be treated as human. I think executing someone over thoughts they have no control over is evil.
I agree, people who have those gross thoughts should seek help from a professional but people who actively seek or godforbid do worse to minors deserve everything that people threaten them with
It’s an uncomfortable question. Under socialism, I think non-offending pedophiles should be encouraged to discuss the issues they’re having with state-appointed counselors, and potentially interned in a (humane) facility where they can undergo evaluation and treatment - not the chemical castration, inherently psycho-pharmaceutical people think of, that should probably be a last resort. Talk therapy, DBT, etc. should be attempted first, always.
On the other hand, proven offending pedophiles should probably just be put to death. This may be the carceral-state, punishment-over-rehabilitation brainwashing talking, but I don’t think there’s any coming back from that and there probably shouldn’t be. Nigh any lens I apply to this issue comes to the same conclusion. Utilitarian? They obviously take more from the people than they give. Ethical? They inflict irreperable trauma on the most vulnerable population there is and are statistically likely to do so again.
I remember reading about a pedophile in an area controlled by Filipino communists. They asked his victim what she wanted to be done, and held a trial wherein her voice carried more weight than the rest of the people involved. They hanged the pedophile. Good.
(Note: I’m speaking as someone who endured CSA for 5 years. This is not to “lane” anyone, just context as to why I’ve personally thought about this.)
There was a case like this in the LNR back in 2014 or 2015. A soldier was convicted, by a people’s court, of raping a 12 year old girl. Since the LNR didn’t at the time have a truly functioning legal system, and couldn’t legitimately put anyone to death, the soldier was given a choice: either rot in prison for the duration of the conflict, to face sentencing during peacetime, or be sent under guard to the heaviest part of the front. He chose the latter, and I believe died in combat a couple weeks later.
Interesting. A solution like that makes sense in the midst of fighting a war against imperial aggressors. I’m not sure how it’d look during peacetime. I’d personally say that being in the socialist military, during peacetime, should be viewed as an honor rather than a punishment. I also understand that said socialist military can only exist through enduring a period of conflict. Sometimes more pragmatic approaches are needed, and it seems to me like they made the right call.
I’m curious, do you have a link to where you read that?
Honestly IIRC it was a comment on FB from a Filipino communist who allegedly fled after some shit went down. So not exactly a source I’d use without further investigation, but still interesting.
I’d prefer they get help but at the same time I don’t trust liberals not to try and foster an environment of total tolerance towards paedos, some of them are already trying to do this with arguments in favour of drawn CP, referring to paedos as “MAPs” or pushing the agenda of “children’s autonomy”. For that reason, I’m happy to maintain paedo-bashing until we have a proletarian state that won’t tolerate liberal bs
Some ITT have suggested the death penalty, I’m personally against the death penalty for any crime purely because the potential for error exists. If you wrongfully imprison someone, you can’t give them back the time they lost but you can compensate them to the point that they can really enjoy what time they have left whereas if you wrongfully kill someone, there’s no way to fix that at all. Even for criminals who cannot be reformed, I think the very least that can be done is to put them to work for the betterment of society and at least have the state use the lives of these people to contribute some good to society.
Depends:
If they still didn’t do anything to any child=mental asylum
They raped a child=destroyed, every single one of them
Agree completely, but Nitpick: don’t call it a mental asylum. Those are the lobotomy and electroshock fake hospitals that absolutely do not work nor are they based in any sort of real science or medicine. I assume you’re referring to modern psychiatric treatment for mental disorders, which should just be called that.
They should get the gulag comrade, contributing back to society.
As for non offending ones I think they can be rehabilitated by experts psychologists and psychiatrists