It appears that most Americans are familiar with the uyghur genocide narrative. In addition, the majority of them accept it as real.
So i wonder how many of you know someone in real life who does not believe the mainstream narrative?
Just one. My partner. But I dont bring it up. Its only been brought up to me a handful of times and I usually play dumb instead of spending two hours explaining US geostrategy in Central Asia just to be labeled a genocide denier.
most people around me dont even know about it lol, and the ones who do, only know because I told them it’s propaganda, so even if they hear that in media they probably wont believe it
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“Most of the people I know IRL are MLs” a single tear trickles down my cheek
Yeah, I know…one. Suffice to say I spend a lot of time with him…You could say every second of my life. LOL.
At least a lot of people I know are at least socdems 🥲
SocDems? Oof. Im so sorry. Engaging with them is such a minefield of national chauvinism.
To be completely fair my best friend is a proto-ML, he’s just been busy in school with STEM stuff so politics has been on the back burner for him for a while but he trusts my takes on things. My gf also listens to what I say but she’s determined to die apolitical it seems lol.
Hey I mean I guess it’s like…you know…20% better than talking to conservatives. Luckily none of them are patriots (they still hate AES though, bleh).
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Most people here on Brasil havent even heard about it. Our lib midia is surprisingly pro China, probably because they are our best buyer of agrarian goods, so if we get on bad terms with China, the economy will suffer a lot, even the conservatives and reactionarys know about this, when the son of the president was shit talking China by saying they where responsible for the Corona virus, the Chinese diplomat dunked on him and the son of the president becamed the joke of the month.
Most people here on Brasil havent even heard about it.
Same in Romania. The press doesn’t really talk about it. When it is brought up, it’s mostly presented as “allegations made by the United States”
I’ve had a fairly easy time debunking the claims to my friends, who’ve only heard a little about the story, mostly from US press.
Since the media isn’t constantly going “China bad reeeeee. WAR. WAR. WAR,” they have little problem with accepting the facts, and disregarding the rumours, when they learn more about it
I wouldn’t say pro-China but it is not US-Levels of stupidity, mainly bc they buy our soy. But the few times William Bonner talked about China he said a lot of lib bullshit.
5 of my closest friends dont believe it. 4 of them are communists, the last one isnt a communist but is a smart rational person. He used to believe the genocide but when i showed him the evidence he quickly changed his mind. The rest of my friends probably dont even know its a thing. But again im outside of the anglosphere, the antichina propaganda is much less intense here, especially among young people who rarely watch TV news.
Zero*
I have a network of friends who I became acquainted with due to my interactions with Chinese society so I’m not counting those.
Only one for certain (I don’t talk about it with other people IRL, given how it can easily ruin my life in “freedom of speech” Canada). AFAIK he’s not a communist, just rational.
None of my immediate family believes it, and neither do my close friends fortunately. This is because my family isn’t from the west and don’t have anything to gain from the west’s lies so they are skeptical and then my close friends are also mostly foreign. The others I have had lengthy discussions with and pointed to the undeniable fact that the west uses radicalized Muslims to achieve their imperial ambitions, i.e. Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, etc…
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I only know of ONE person in my life who has reasonable doubts about it because I sat them down and explained it in detail.
I also know of one who is part of and African Internationalist party who disbelieved it from the jump.
I’ve never talked to them about it but given that almost everybody I know thinks some combination of the below (among tons of other stupid shit):
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Believes other stupid shit about the “CCP” (credit score, organ harvesting, massive police state, etc.) and hates them
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Thinks the US military is overall good
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Dickrides and fetishizes Western culture and doesn’t interact with people from other cultures/societies
It’s safe to say they all believe it
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how often do americans think about it in day to day life? the narrative is years old, and more recent events, especially ones close to home, have happened.
I am in a community of fake refuge community of Hong Kong Canadians and they have connections to former Chinese warlords. In my community, the elder generation who lived as elites in warlord societies are now supportive of Chinese Communists because the Communist make Chinese economy prosperitive and will deny the genocide. My parent’s generation who were born in Hong Kong are divided between the conman who now support CPC because they want to free ride on China’s success despite their participation in the 1989 false flag terrorist attacks against Chinese citizen and brainwashed oppressed disabled people who believe in the Uyghur genocide because they associate brutal Chinese warlord practices of their abusive family to Communists.
just 1
Many, possibly including several Americans, but in America its socially unacceptable to challenge MSM narratives even when they admit that they’re own stories were bullshit. Everyone I’ve met who’s actually been to Xinjiang (including myself) knows for a fact that there is no genocide (real or cultural) and I’m not sure how someone could even think of a lie that big