[Link to link](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/262239).
**Posted into the wrong Lemmy community. Might need to delete+repost.**
I seriously don't get it. Why do they try and get people from China-related subreddits/communities to join them if they're going to ban them once they're too vocal? Do they just want to spread a wide net and catch whichever stragglers so they can promote their own form of socialism?
Or are these people actively creating these communities and banning anyone who's even half-serious about socialism as to impede the organization of grassroots movements?
I think calling it a "State-led" market economy doesn't provide a good picture of what China's Social Market economy actually is. And while the video is called "The Rise of China" they focused most of the video talking about not China.
While the "Jenga" analogy works, they neglect to mention that these experiments take place locally.
If you want to learn more about[ the Road to China's Socialist Market Economy](https://bit.ly/3PpMEuY), then read this book. Or if you don't want to pay/wait for shipping, here are [some other decent books](https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fyylzdek70oo4/4.0_Writings_by_others_about_current_China) that I have lying around in my Mediafire Drive.
Lol, I didn’t even get that far. Got either ignored or into an argument as to whether China and the CPC is or isn’t communist just because I filled in that living in China and learning about Socialism with Chinese Characteristics was what introduced me to socialism. (not in the USA; applied to three)
Vetting isn’t the issue, but they’re supposed to provide you with the materials and the roadmap to joining. Not being a member of the party should preclude you from joining their open events and volunteering your time towards socialist causes.
Have quite a hoard of books on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics lying around at my place. Thought it might be worthwhile to record the audio versions for them. Started recording two weeks ago only to find out that not me really having communicated for the last 2 years (while I'm stuck waiting for the borders with China to open) really did a number on the way I speak. So I decided to practice with reading out the Chinese white papers (starting with the least interesting ones. Having now spent 10+ hours of recording I should probably get someone to listen to it.
Main questions:
- **Is the quality of the recording decent?**
- **Do I sound overly affectatious?**
Feel free to rip into me. I really dislike listening to my own voice so I can't be a proper judge.
Thank you.
EDIT: Still trying to figure out how I can get those chapters on Youtube to work.
They only defend China when it's the West attacking them, but it seems they won't support China on its own merit. China is seemingly merely a backdrop for their own political project.
They also did a lazy job on debunking, but that's an unrelated grievance.
Be aware that the deadline for these scholarships is REALLY early, as in December/January. Your best course of action is to assume that the deadline is in October and work towards that.
While computer data/science courses are quite competitive, they do recruit a lot of master’s students to work and study in China from abroad. If you’re interested in AI then you’re golden, albeit said courses are pretty hefty on the math so (e.g. imagine a physics degree comparable to workload).
Why are you using a private service to handle your admittance? You’re better off contacting people at the Confucius Institute and try to get a scholarship through them (you have to be under 25). You’re from Europe so it’s a different story. There is a quota per nationality for scholarships, and thus as someone who isn’t from the global south, it will be easier to get in.
If you’re interested in studying in China; start studying Chinese. While your Chinese will improve a lot more rapidly when in China it is still a difficult language that requires you to invest a lot of time and effort.
It would help if you told us what kind of program you’re interested in. Do you want to study sinology? Do you want to study engineering? What is your goal? Depending on the type of direction you want to go you might need an entirely different scholarship. What research have you done on CSC Scholarships?
Well yeah. Still, phosphorus can theoretically be mined though from ocean water. The problem is that with current techniques, yeah; it’s not sustainable. Being able to mine it from out direct waste would be ten times better.
Have been listening to audiobooks during my bouts of menial labour and have kind of run dry on things to listen to that aren't orthodox Marxism-Leninism. And while [I did make a study guide for myself that covers Orthodox ML & Chinese socialism](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1POzRkMNAOPVR4Nxnwub-C91fmtj3tjrtgJmVvhY7IZQ/edit?usp=sharing) and annotated everything for which I could find an audiobook; I'd still like to learn more about socialism outside of the West and China.
This is what I've listened to so far:
Writers from the Global South
* [Walter Rodney: How Europe Underdeveloped Africa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnxHBlh527Q&list=PLFzMvDEJ8BBVwklO-PZON6ZQcm_gZZ4Rp&index=1)
* [Ho Chi Minh - Down with Colonialism!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rknoapWfM4)
* [Eduardo Galeano - Open Veins of Latin America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA52otc5S-8)
Western Writers about the Global South
* [Vincent Bevins: The Jakarta Method](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr1vx7NkSo)
The recommendations don't have to centre around socialism, and I'd be more than willing to pay for the content. I just don't know what to listen to next. Kind of out of my depth. I did find [Che's on Guerilla Warfare](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGaXakKZW9E&t=4821s), but I haven't started listening to it yet.
I fail to understand why I keep getting kicked/banned from leftist communities. All I did in that community was talk about the BRI, share my reading list, and fascinate about the guoxin-1: China's first deep-sea fish farm that's as large as an aircraft carrier. As well as talk to another person about how Chinese media could do a better job at outreach.
To these self-hating leftists, you can apparently only discuss China when they're dunking on the West. But when you talk about the BRI, Moderate Prosperity, XJP's New Era, or what have you: you get promptly done away with.
I now understand why none of the reading lists in Socialist groups don't include anything recent or from the third world. These people are stuck in the past and only want to lever the actions of AES states to support their own moribund view of their world and their socialist causes.
I just wanted to make some friends on the left.
What's up Western left? [I didn't even post anything](https://www.reddit.com/user/A-V-A-Weyland) ([check REVeddit](https://www.reveddit.com/y/a-v-a-weyland/?showFilters=true)), to that subreddit [and have already been banned](https://i.imgur.com/J1dLBCo.png).
Why can I only talk about anything China-related if it's in relationship to the West? Are China and the CPC only a foil to Western leftists to promote their own form of socialism?
Does China's success on its road to Socialism give Western leftists a inferiority complex? Do people that talk about Vietnam or other people from the global South experience the same treatment?
Created a Community on Reddit ([/r/putonghuaxuexi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/putonghuaxuexi/)) to help people improve their Chinese pronunciation with the 普通话学习 APP. The app is great, and people should really check it out.
The APP has been updated quite a bit since I made that subreddit and resources to create an account. If there is enough of an interest on here I'll update the guide.
[Direct download link to the latest version (9.8.3)](https://wap.pp.cn/app_zmwUcxyeLzD/). Click the "普通下载" button twice to download the APK.
The subreddit has material on how to create an account, [or here is a guide](https://www.mediafire.com/file/33u7c1tq39pu5ob/%25E6%2599%25AE%25E9%2580%259A%25E8%25AF%259D%25E5%25AD%25A6%25E4%25B9%25A0_Putonghua_Xuexi_Guide_for_Dummies.docx/file) for version 9.4.7, together with [the (now somewhat outdated) APK](https://www.mediafire.com/file/1ixkyvvrmbvffey/APK_%25E6%2599%25AE%25E9%2580%259A%25E8%25AF%259D%25E5%25AD%25A6%25E4%25B9%25A0_9.4.7%255B1%255D.apk/file).
Last year the political curriculum for primary and secondary school students in China got updated to better adhere to "Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era" (quite a mouthful, so let's use SWCC). I happened to have their PDFs saved on my drive and thought some of you might be interested in their contents.
Even if you can't read Chinese it's still worth looking through it as it makes prominent use of imagery (especially the primary grade materials) and many of us (especially in the West) look upon these study materials with envy.
One thing that stood out to me is that while there is a chapter dedicated to China's navy and military in the junior high book; said chapter is immediately followed by the chapter on peaceful collaboration and common destiny for humankind, thus making sure to emphasise that China's military might should only be used to defend China's borders and not to intervene in other nations.
[Here are the PDFs of the textbooks on my MediaFire drive. ](https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lmyrsicj7p57e/4.Y_Xi_Jinping_Thought_on_Socialism_with_Chinese_Characteristics_for_a_New_Era_-_Student_Curriculum_(习近平新时代中国特色社会主义思想学生总课程))
The contents of this word document are as below. I thought it might be worth giving people a look at what (at least going by the website xuexi.cn) the CPC expects its party cadre to read. Do take in mind that most party cadres read foremostly Xi Jinping thought, then delve into other Chinese writings to (especially Deng), to only finally end up at the core of Marxism-Leninism.
Still need to find the ebook formats of Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao thought, but apart from that everything is either available as a download or as a link that directs to Marxists.org.
I will expand on this list, but before I do I'd like to hear your thoughts.
*For some reason the formatting of this post is bugged, please open the Google Doc for a better outline.*
::: spoiler spoiler
Marxism - Leninism
Selected Works of Marx and Engels
Volume 1
(A Critique of) The German Ideology
Communist Manifesto
Volume 2
Das Kapital
Volume 3
Anti-Dühring
Volume 4
The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy
Selected Works of Vladimir Lenin
Volume 1
Volume 2
The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism
On the Question of Dialectics
Volume 3
Volume 4
“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder
Socialism with Chinese Characteristics
Mao Zedong Thought - Applying ML to China’s Conditions - Selected Works (毛泽东文选）
Volume 1
On Contradiction
Volume 2
Volume 3
Volume 4
Deng Xiaoping Thought - Opening Up - Selected Works (邓小平文选)
Volume 1
Volume 2
Volume 3
Jiang Zemin Thought - Three Represents - Selected Works (江泽民文选)
Volume 1
Volume 2
Volume 3
Hu Jintao Thought - Scientific Outlook on Development - Selected Works (胡锦涛文选)
Volume 1
Volume 2
Volume 3
Xi Jinping Thought - SWCC for a New Era
On the Governance of China
Volume 1
Volume 2
Volume 3
Other Writings
Up and Out of Poverty
The Belt and Road Initiative
Zhejiang, China: A New Vision For Development
On Building a Human Community with a Shared Future
How to Deepen Reform Comprehensively
The Chinese Dream of the Great Rejuvenation of The Chinese Nation
:::
As some of you in the West might know; the newspapers are filled to the brim with the "newly" released stories from Xinjiang. Well, I had an old friend reach out to me and tell me that they are against everything I stand for (supporting China) and that they wish that if/when I go to China I'll be oppressed like the Uyghurs. Before I had a chance to reply I had already been blocked. So I thought to go and check others and whether others had blocked me as well. I now have at least 2 people who deleted me because of anti-China propaganda. And while some of you might say; don't cry over spilt milk ... I do feel like more of a pariah with every day I stay in the West and openly support China.
These issues started during COVID. The sheer sinophobia I had to deal with on a daily basis during that time was absolutely sickening, but I mostly just grinned and bare it. Most of my time these last few years (while I wait for borders to reopen) is volunteering my time at a care centre for elderly people. Seeing as most of them have onset dementia I don't really get into arguments with them on China issues, as it's a fool's effort, but the anti-Chinese diatribes in the news have already caused the residents to not want me to come during the first waves of COVID and to not want me to cook Chinese food for them. These people read newspapers religiously and with these latest lies placating multiple pages I got told both today and yesterday that I don't have to care for these specific residents anymore. I'm lucky in that this job isn't a real job in that I don't need it to stay afloat financially, but I still feel really conflicted. I should probably continue volunteering and just help other elders in this complex or other complexes, but I have decided that I won't. Back during COVID, I was able to understand it somewhat that their xenophobia came from the fear of me transmitting COVID to them (because I interact with Chinese people and in their eyes would be more likely to be a carrier). Only this Monday I was literally showing and telling one of these residents, who used to be a farmer, about Chinese seawater rice and talking to them about the olden times and seeing their eyes light up to only be told today that they don't want me to come anymore because I support that very same China. I should feel very bad about leaving the remaining residents I helped, but I'm planning on quitting in a week or 2/3 and from then on I won't put another iota of my time and effort into improving Western society unless it also directly helps the people in the global South.
I'm just so tired.
EDIT: This is something I posted to get some catharsis, as I don't really have anywhere else to post this without sounding unhinged. Feel free to downvote it.
Slowly many of the negative environmental impacts of China's dam-building escapades are being remediated and future developments will see a much greater emphasis on environmental protection.
Posted this video to a bunch of (non-China focused) Socialist subreddits last week, and every single time it got deleted by the moderators. Which kind of proved the point of the video.
I'm requesting more audiobooks, and possibly offering to contribute my own narrations.
Since the start of COVID, I've had the privilege to listen to a copious amount of leftist audiobooks and podcasts. Due to the nature of my occupation; I can kind of tune out and focus on the contents of the audiobook without it impacting my work. After 2+ years of listening, I'm close to exhausting most of the readily available supply on YouTube. Some of the channels I've "finished":
- [Audible Socialism](https://www.youtube.com/c/AudibleSocialism)
- [Dessalines' channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7HJWIFGGeMiJi2h3k18CrQ)
- [Most Audiobooks from Dessalines' Marxism Study Plan](https://dessalines.github.io/essays/audiobooks.html)
- [Red Circle — 赤い丸](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZW-EMhYOtF0ByqLcVi_vKA)
- [Socialism for All](https://www.youtube.com/c/SocialismForAll/videos)
- [C Ozmun](https://www.youtube.com/c/COzmun1)
There is probably more, but I regrettably never bothered to keep track of all the audiobooks I've listened to that are strewn across YouTube.
What has become obvious though is that there is a severe lack of Marxist-Leninist literature from the global South. While the language barrier is partly to blame, it's still a miserable affair.
Personally, I'm invested in Socialism with Chinese Characteristics (SWCC). Having amassed quite a few shelves of books on the topic, I was wondering; would you guys be interested in having them be narrated? While "the Governance of China by Xi Jinping" has already been narrated by C. Ozmun, I find its contents rather lacking. While it does provide the reader/listener with the ideological angle behind SWCC, it doesn't delve that much deeper as it's merely a collection of speeches and writings.
There are (English) books on SWCC that dive a bit deeper and stick to a topic, [such as this series by the China Renmin University Press](https://www.purpleculture.net/new-concepts-new-ideals-and-new-strategies-of-xi-jinpings-thought-on-the-governance-of-china-bs-1599/), that might prove more interesting for the average Marxist Leninist. I also have book on topics about how the CPC (the party) governs/disciplines itself. And other books on Poverty Alleviation, the Belt & Road Initiatve, on Global Governance (in a multi-polar world), the Party School (how the CPC educates its cadres), developments in Rural China, and more.
If there is enough interest I'd be willing to burn the midnight oil and spend my evenings recording its contents. But I do have to know some of your preferences in how they're recorded. Like do you have pet peeves on certain pronunciations, on the organization of the recordings (rather be divided by chapter than one continuous recording), do you have different places you'd like to see the narrations hosted (apart from YouTube), etc. etc. etc.
None of you can be bothered to actually look it up instead you just follow the crowd huh?
Here is the Chinese wiki (baike) on the province of Taiwan, which is part of China. And here is Fujian.