• Star Wars Enjoyer A
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    this logic is just bad.

    Both of these regions voted popularly to join Russia, the people there WANT to be part of Russia. As a result, Ukraine’s government has carried out terrorist actions against the regions (bombings of Donbas, shutting off water to Crimea), which is what Russia’s reacting to.

    so, let’s flip this into a hypothetical. Let’s say Taiwan is currently a part of China (not as the 1C2S system that exists today, but as a fully integrated part), and the people of Taiwan voted popularly for independence. Would Taiwan be justified in fighting against the mainland for independence?

    Most liberals who are supporting Ukraine in this conflict would say that, yes, Taiwan would be justified. But, because we’re talking about Russia, and because their only framework of the world is from the lens of NATO propaganda, they refuse to accept that it’s more-or-less the same thing. These two regions voted to be part of Russia, Donbas is justified in rebelling against Ukraine’s terrorism, Russia was justified in the invasion of Crimea. You can’t support the hypothetical without also supporting the real world current events, it doesn’t work like that.

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      Also, because I don’t wanna make another standalone comment, Russia backed/supported the Texan successionist movement like a decade ago (i’d post the Texan Nationalist propaganda video RT made, but youtube dabbed on RT’s channel). I’d gladly fight for Russia in a hypothetical Texan succession war, at this point anything would be better than Washington, even Texan Nationalists.

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        I mean wouldn’t a Texan republic just be like Texas today but without being part of the USA? So literally nothing would fucking change.

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    Okay lets see, Skegness, Grimsby, Sheffield, Slough, Scunthorpe, Doncaster, the list is endless, it can all go to Russia. They can have it for free.

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    All of the regions, honestly. Idgaf who “runs the country” I don’t want my child to die from a bomb.

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      Gotta get that real estate. Bonus points if you can make it free real estate… By genociding the current inhabitants.

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    I bet, I JUST BET that she would defend to the death the US’s war crimes in Vietnam and Korea because “HURR DURR THE COMMIES WERE ATTACKING OUR FRIENDS!”

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    On reddit everyone overwhelmingly said they would give up Florida. I wonder if Putin wouldn’t mind coming to liberate us here in Florida. Reddit won’t mind.

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    Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina, Paraná, literally the entire south region of my country, the people there suck absolute ass.

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    Moscow, please take it, we don’t need it.

        • Szymon
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          To my understanding the government doesn’t openly discriminate against Tatars although I have little to zero knowledge on the subject (and even if they are not racist openly there should still be analysis of the laws of the Russian Federation to see whether they structurally discriminate)

          The wikipedia article mentioned a singular individual and unnamed institutions, although it wouldn’t surprise me if widespread negative sentiment against Tatars did exist(especially considering the stereotypes attributed to them). I am not claiming that it does not exist but that the article doesn’t definitely state any widespread sentiment. unfortunately I couldn’t read the two sources in the “in modern times” as I can’t read russian. although they seemingly were just referencing the actions of the soviet union and not Russia as of today(by soviet union the probably mean Russia anyways as it would be the republics that create autonomous areas and not the union as a whole)