Both of these regions voted popularly to join Russia, the people there WANT to be part of Russia. As a result, Ukraine’s government has carried out terrorist actions against the regions (bombings of Donbas, shutting off water to Crimea), which is what Russia’s reacting to.
so, let’s flip this into a hypothetical. Let’s say Taiwan is currently a part of China (not as the 1C2S system that exists today, but as a fully integrated part), and the people of Taiwan voted popularly for independence. Would Taiwan be justified in fighting against the mainland for independence?
Most liberals who are supporting Ukraine in this conflict would say that, yes, Taiwan would be justified. But, because we’re talking about Russia, and because their only framework of the world is from the lens of NATO propaganda, they refuse to accept that it’s more-or-less the same thing. These two regions voted to be part of Russia, Donbas is justified in rebelling against Ukraine’s terrorism, Russia was justified in the invasion of Crimea. You can’t support the hypothetical without also supporting the real world current events, it doesn’t work like that.
Also, because I don’t wanna make another standalone comment, Russia backed/supported the Texan successionist movement like a decade ago (i’d post the Texan Nationalist propaganda video RT made, but youtube dabbed on RT’s channel). I’d gladly fight for Russia in a hypothetical Texan succession war, at this point anything would be better than Washington, even Texan Nationalists.
this logic is just bad.
Both of these regions voted popularly to join Russia, the people there WANT to be part of Russia. As a result, Ukraine’s government has carried out terrorist actions against the regions (bombings of Donbas, shutting off water to Crimea), which is what Russia’s reacting to.
so, let’s flip this into a hypothetical. Let’s say Taiwan is currently a part of China (not as the 1C2S system that exists today, but as a fully integrated part), and the people of Taiwan voted popularly for independence. Would Taiwan be justified in fighting against the mainland for independence?
Most liberals who are supporting Ukraine in this conflict would say that, yes, Taiwan would be justified. But, because we’re talking about Russia, and because their only framework of the world is from the lens of NATO propaganda, they refuse to accept that it’s more-or-less the same thing. These two regions voted to be part of Russia, Donbas is justified in rebelling against Ukraine’s terrorism, Russia was justified in the invasion of Crimea. You can’t support the hypothetical without also supporting the real world current events, it doesn’t work like that.
Also, because I don’t wanna make another standalone comment, Russia backed/supported the Texan successionist movement like a decade ago (i’d post the Texan Nationalist propaganda video RT made, but youtube dabbed on RT’s channel). I’d gladly fight for Russia in a hypothetical Texan succession war, at this point anything would be better than Washington, even Texan Nationalists.
I mean wouldn’t a Texan republic just be like Texas today but without being part of the USA? So literally nothing would fucking change.