A photograph of two Chinese athletes hugging after a race has been censored on Chinese social media because the women’s race numbers inadvertently formed a reference to the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989.
How fragile is their regime if it is threatened by race numbers?
u/Thembaneu - originally from r/GenZhou
No. It is called the June 4 Incident. It’s actually quite well known. Nobody knows the term “Tiananmen Square Massacre” because there was no massacre, let alone on the square.
My favourite bit is when Wikipedia itself is like “the 10,000 claim was made by one dude who basically instantly retracted it and claimed the still unplausibly high number of 2,000”.
Also, the Tank Man photographer talks about the protestors throwing molotov cocktails and beating police officers to death.
And the whole “China pretends it didn’t happen”…they have official death estimates. 300 people. The US have their own estimate. 900 people. But no matter the number, it was much fewer than the protest leaders had hoped for.
To quote one of the protest leaders “What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes” - Chai Ling
By the way, that person is alive and well running a firm that fires people for not praying at work.
don’t see where you mentioned Tiananmen Square
Is it narcissistic to post my own?
Lib: Basically, every thing wrong with the ccp, every evil, is just western propaganda. They deny the Ughur genocide, tiananmen square, they deny everything and call it western propaganda.
Me: Wow, they really deny that stuff? Do you have any good sources I can throw at them next time I see that?
Lib: Nothing really, they just call it western propoganda. Theres no point.
Me: Maybe some would listen if we showed them strong enough evidence, I mean all that stuff is pretty well documented, right? Aren’t there like, pictures or something? At the very least, if we force them to deny strong, reputable sources, it’d make the pitch to defederate stronger.
Lib: It is well documented, they have been shown sources, and they do not care. I really hope they defed from hexbear soon.
Me: I know, I’m just asking you to share them with me so I can use them too next time.
OP link us to the comment where you merely mentioned Tiananmen square and got banned for it
@seahorse@midwest.social you’re being rightfully called out in this comments section.
https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/
Numerous military buses, trucks, armored vehicles, and tanks being burned by the “peaceful” protesters. Sometimes the soldiers were allowed to escape, and sometimes they were brutally killed by the protesters. Numerous protesters were armed with Molotov cocktails and even guns.
The official report of the Chinese government from 1989 (translated here) shows that more than 1000 military and police vehicles were burned by rioters. And 200+ soldiers and policemen were murdered. Just imagine how much restraint the military and the police had shown.
Wait, how could the protesters kill so many soldiers? Because, until the very end, Chinese soldiers were unarmed. Most of the times, they didn’t even have helmets or batons.
What exactly happened in Beijing in 1989 that lead to this bloody affair?
The answer lies with two key figures: General Secretary Hu Yaobang, and Ambassador James Lilley.
Hu Yaobang was a member of the communist party of China and was one of the three major rightist-reformers that set China on the path its on today, the other two being Zhao Ziyang, and Deng Xiaoping respectively. Hu Yaobang as a reformer was also a spokesman for the intelligentsia and by the end of his life was well-beloved by the youth of China (we’re talking below 30 here, folks) therefore when he passed away the youth of China organized public grieving events with the largest occurring in Beijing. This is to say if Hu didn’t die from old age that year, none of this would’ve happened that year. This is to also say this event had nothing to do with “freedom” or “democracy” or whatever pigshit your favorite rush limburger propagandist spoon feeds you, it was a funeral service that was hijacked to unseat the Chinese government - which so coincidentally is a speciality of the agency the second person we’re talking about.
Ambassador James Lilley, the son of an american expat oil executive for Standard Oil, was a CIA agent operating in east Asia from 1951 to 1981 with little officially known about him (I know for a fact he’s fucked around Korea and Laos, so it’s not a stretch to say he’s likely been involved with every conflict that occured during his official career). In his “post” CIA career he’s acted as a diplomatic liason to the provice of Taiwan, a teacher to future state department ghouls, and “helped” South Korea end its military dicatorship by helping the military win the election “democratically”, and abruptly five days after the death of General Secretary Hu Yaobang James Lilley was appointed as the US Ambassador to China by also former CIA ghoul and president of the United States George H. W. Bush. What an astounding coincidence.
Credit to @Alaskaball@hexbear.net for the second part of this comment.
He’s always been this based honestly. Before Twitter you could find his official account on hip hop message boards block-of-texting mfs about Tiananmen
Tiananmen tank man stands in front of tank, tank drives around
“What a cruel display of authoritarianism! Literally George Foreman 1989!”
Rachel Corrie stands in front of a bulldozer and gets crushed to death
“A shining beacon of democracy in the Middle East! Uncritical support to the freedom-loving Israelis!”
u/yesthepeople - originally from r/GenZhou
Tiananmen Square is a farce. They didn’t even protest “the Dengist regime” or whatever that is. They (the many students and young adults) protested the increase in farmer wealth due to recent privatization of that industry. Just do the darn readings guys.
Chinese internet restricts the inflow of (most) Western internet because it is inherently pervasive. Companies like Google, Facebook etc. get caught nearly every month selling or stealing users’ information. Tesla the most recent example of this. This is why those companies aren’t allowed in.
“Journalists.” Adrian Zenz is no journalist for example, but an arm of Western imperialism. (We could also mention his gross anti-semitism and blatant racism). In theory, with the CPC supposedly quashing all and any dissent, they wouldn’t allow “news” agencies like Radio Free Asia and the Epoch Times into their country, but that’s not the case unfortunately. Should we mention what happened to Julian Assange?
Libs: LOL, China tells the people nothing happened at Tiananmen Square.
“Well, what did happen at Tiananmen Square?”
Libs: Well, they killed people, I think? And there was something about tanks? A protest about… something?
I like that we have/need new books to re-report information that was widely known decades ago because of how easy it is to sell propaganda to the west. We have actual documentaries, made by the west at the time of Tiananmen, that completely contradicts the massacre narrative that was invented years later. lol. Libs really will believe anything as long as it comes from the mouth of some oligarch backed talking head.
“General purpose” instances are something else. Someone claimed that during the Tiananmen protests PLA tanks intentionally ran over students. When I pressed for evidence I was banned by the lemmyshitpost mod for denying genocide. Tiananmen “massacre” is a genocide now too. The Chinese are geniciding themselves.
IDF ran over the people they shot and killed/injured with tanks.
Remember when westerners were talking about the Chinese tanks running over civilians in Tiananmen Square?
At the end of the day, even Tiananmen Square turned out to just be projection.
CBS news had a reporter in the square at the time. You should read what he said
In seriousness, in Chinese currency, there is fen (1分), 10 fen is a mao (1毛) and 10 mao is 1 yuan (1元)
In some liberal fever dream, people were paid 5 mao per post to defend the CPC on the internet. Which doesn’t really make a lot of sense since they also believe mentioning Tiananmen Square will get you SWATed. So dissent is never posted online, but when it is there’s a ready team of professional posters defending China. Which even the west admits is a lie, even the Wikipedia article notes “In contrast to common assumptions, the 50 Cent Party consists mostly of paid bureaucrats who respond to government directives and rarely defend their government from criticism or engage in direct arguments because “… the goal of this massive secretive operation is instead to distract the public and change the subject.””
This has spread to any defense or China on a western platform being done by highly bilingual Chinese state employees for 50 cents a post.
To deny the events that unfolded at Tiananmen Square is like denying that humans have been to the moon. It’s an unfounded, in fact, disprovable conspiracy theory.
So prove it to us then. All you’re doing right now is scolding us for being insane conspiracy theorists. I’ve never seen any evidence that anything happened at tiananmen square. Reports from people who were actually there all say that there was no massacre
The US has a very long history of lying about its enemies. There are plenty of declassified CIA docs that talk about what lies to tell the media. Why is this one different?
Edit: also, see pen names. Isn’t it a little hypocritical to call us conspiracy theorists when you come to the conclusion that the book was lies written by China or North Korea because you can’t find any information about the author?
Man I posted the Tiananmen square video in a desperate attempt to stir up as much shit as you and I just can’t manage it. It’s like you actually are a communist robot designed to piss off libs all the time. Yet there is a part of me that’s like “what if they are like, some insane CIA psyop that’s just that fucking good?” And my Friday night drunk brain can’t handle it.
Alright China shills, you can stop changing the subject to how Google and the US are the “same”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
If you lived in China you’d likely not know about this, since people who talk about it go to prison.
Yeah the US is exactly like this so let’s not talk about the Chinese government being awful to their citizens /s