• Shrike502
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    I’ll believe it when I see it. Putin has always been in the business of saying correct things (i.e. about needed to advance healthcare and education) and then doing the opposite.

    Frankly I expect consolidation of capital in the hands of few chosen. You know. Krupp Style.

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      I mean, this kind of does ruin the myth that its “the oligarchs” ruling Russia; all of Putin’s enemies in the financial elite have mysteriously disappeared of late; but power is most certainly not in the hands of the proletariat either. If Russia is to become fully fascist, or liberal, or communist, I suspect it will be after Putin dies.

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    Knowing Putin’s rhetoric, “the western oligarchs” can very easily become a dog whistle for “Jewish Globalists” and by extension the “evil western LGBT degeneracy”.

    I take anything Putin says with a grain of salt. I’ll believe him when he shows his hand and true face.

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      It’s wild to me that they talk like queerphobia isn’t a western invention

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        The fall of the Soviet Union created a broken generation that had to grasp on to any explanation for their suffering. This, coupled with cultural diffusion from the West and the rising power of the Eastern Orthodox Church made a prime breeding ground of Anti-LGBT, Nazi, nationalist, and religious extremist sentiment. The origin of queerphobia means little to the people that believe it, mostly because they believe that it is ordained by God, and the only way to save their nation.

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          Can’t really argue with people who believe things there’s no evidence for unfortunately

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            I believe you can separate queerphobia from religion, the two are obviously deeply intertwined but they can be pried apart. There are many who are queerphobic who are not religious at all, too.

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              I’ve never seen a single queerphobic person who wasn’t religious on some level tbh it’s usually some bullshit about being “natural”, which always boils down to the Adam and Eve myth

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    when he’s talking about oligarchs he only means the compradores. if they were injecting money into russia he’d be just fine with them

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      Well put.

      Foreign capitalists = Western capitalists, so him hating them is a lot better than him liking them, anti-West is good but it isn’t pro-socialism.

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    I’m not gonna link anything here because I know western outlets will still try to demonize their enemies even if they are also capitalist, but putin is a business man. One who panders to the church, and who is at heart, never a communist.

    Most importantly the idea that Putin will do anything is not founded in theory. That is reformism. A vangaurd seizes the state, it is not elected. And the party isnt a a right wing one. United Russia was founded not as a communist party, instead as offering “a middle way” to unite the population. Also known as third position class collaboration.

    Not trying to be mean, but this is completely unprincipled.

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    This speech is proof to me that, from a marxist perspective, putin is the product of irrecoverable contradictions between the international bourgeoisie and the russian national bourgeoisie, contradictions legitimized post '91 in libya, syria, yugoslavia, etc. Further legitimized by the subversion of Ukraine through programs like project aerodynamic as early as the 50’s. In my opinion, Russia wouldn’t be half the threat to the west without a strongman like Putin. That being said, he is not our friend, only convenient for our cause because he is allied to the biggest communist country in the world.

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    I honestly cannot tell if this guy is a Nazi, a communist, a tsarist, or somehow all of them at the same time. I mean, yes, communist rhetoric, but no Soviet parliamentary system…