• 201dberg
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    Do anyone have that new article that was like, accusing them of genociding a desert because they turned it into a forest or some shit? I remember it form a year or so back. The reforested an area of desert and this journalist was losing him mind over it.

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    https://lemmygrad.ml/post/414155

    Ok apparently I posted about it and my memory is just that bad. Lmao. Thanks to comrade GrainEater for reminding me.

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      The biggest criticism I’ve seen is that the planting project ended up being a huge monoculture of poplar trees, but that was kinda the norm back then in reforestation.

      The last I heard the forest they planted was dying from a beetle infestation, and they were going to attempt a redo with a lot more species of trees.

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      But fostering biodiversity remains a challenge, conservationists say

      Checkmate China, what’s the point if you can’t just magically spawn the Amazon forest

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        That is a valid concern. One of the largest problems with the project was that they planted massive monocultures of single trees. Something that is extremely dangerous as a single parasite, disease, or pest could annihilate hundreds of thousands of square kilometers.

        Plus monocultures limit biodiversity to an extreme capacity as the entire forest is suitable only to a very limited number of species. It’s not that the animals aren’t there to begin with, it’s that not many can survive in the mass monoculture forest.

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    South America and Africa having lost about 13% forest coverage over 30 years is extremely sad

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    Can someone explains this map to me? The text says China leads, but the numbers say Vietnam is at 56.2%, greater than China’s 40%.

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      I mean, it’s pretty obvious… China is huge, Vietnam is tiny compared to it. The reforested area is, therefore, much larger in China.

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        Also vietnam is still recovering from the war I imagine

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          It’s hard to take care of the forest when there is still tons of inexploded murican ordnance in it.

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              “Free and democratic chemical warfare”

              That’s good. I’m stealing that.

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          the forests are well recovered from the war. it was 50 years ago, and the monsoons really make growth relatively easy.

    • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]
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      The map is the forest area in 2020, relative to existing forest area in 1990 (no change would be 0%).

      So, if you count by absolute area, China leads, and if you count by relative area, Uruguay leads.

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      It’s forest added, not amount of forest

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      You know Vietnam is a tropical country.

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      One of the few good pieces of legislation put forth have curtailed the reach and power of the logging industry and development industries significantly. This is why capitalists in the US hate the EPA.

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      Going by the logic of US media, it’s probably abandoned towns and cities being overgrown.

      Wait, it might actually be true.

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