• who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world
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    I don’t even know what a “tankie” is anymore, i just ignore it like “woke” and “groomer” and just assumed you’re too lazy to think for yourself

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    “Go back to your echo chamber!” -The liberal in the echo chamber yelling at people going out of their way to talk to people with differing opinions.

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      Liberals: We need a society where we hear all views!

      Also liberals when they have to see a communist or an anti-imperialist who cares about humanity: 🙈

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      How tf is a vanguard party “another form of bourgeoisie rule”? Do they think “bourgeoisie” just means “empowered minority”? Geez, is that why these types think capitalism is millennia old?

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        Umm, acktually tankie, don’t you know that authoritarianism bad? So a vanguard party is exactly the same as billionaires ruling everything? Of course, it’s actually much worse as well, so we should oppose it much more than we do capitalism, both sides bad, but evil authoritarian tankies worse!

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        They don’t know what bourgeoisie means, they just think “have power = burgie”, “not working in factory = burgie”, and don’t even think to discuss class position of inteligentsia with them.

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    Oh no, the libs who commented here went “bye bye, folks.”

    Well this was my response to one of the dummies arguing against “authoritarianism.” You can’t even begin to talk with these people because they don’t understand what authoritarian even means or the control mechanisms under which they already live. One of those control mechanisms is the illusion of freedom, which is rather ironic considering “but freedom!” seems to be this one “anti-tankie’s” entire ideology. Anyway this was my response.

    "You took on anarchist esthetics, but all of your political opinions are just liberalism.

    Liberals, famously not authoritarian.

    You’re a tankie by your own definition. Whomp whomp"

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        Better yet, try to do it without using the letters U-L-T-R-A.

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          More buzzwords, explain “authoritarian” then

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              Regarding huge policy shifts in China, such as the original revolution, Cultural Revolution, Dengism, and now the current era, the CPC has always followed the will of the general masses. You can see this on a smaller scale with how they responded to public opinions about quarantine during COVID, furthering or slackening restrictions based off of what the average Chinese people wanted.

              This should come as no surprise, as over 90% of Chinese people say that they trust and are satisfied with the CPC. This fact is supplemented by the high union membership, high power of unions and workers over employers, high party membership, diverse membership across all organizations, etc., that the Chinese enjoy.

              The same story repeats itself, over and over, both in China, the USSR, and whatever other countries the Western Left decries as “authoritarian.”

              The fact of the matter is, “authoritarian” is just new word in the same old information war against communism that capitalism has waged for centuries. They feel threatened by the existence of socialist countries that do well, as they don’t want their own working class getting funny ideas. So, they ignore, degrade, or erase the good, while highlighting, exaggerating, and fabricating the bad. They want you to discard the methods that are proven to work, and instead choose the paths that are proven to fail.

              The US Empire is one of the most prolofic liars and warmongers in human history. They have lied to its own citizens about more than can be counted. They told you MLK was a violent thug, climate change wasn’t real, and that Saddam had WMDs, and that was before they had coffee. So humor us for a moment: assume that these “authoritarian countries” really are true socialist countries. Why would you listen to what the epicenter of capitalism and fascism, and a well-documented liar, has to say about socialism, its foil and mortal enemy?

              “Authoritarian” in reality means, “a country that does things the United States doesn’t like.” Simple.

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                  It was almost clever using “control” so many times in your statement, but it made your commend kind of hard to read. I have no idea what you’re saying.

                  How is it that there is no question of, in your assessment of authoritarianism, how the controllers wound up in control? What class they represent? The median net wealth of every congressperson? How many of the controlled get fucking murdered by the controllers daily?

                  Scientific socialism is winning. Whatever you’re supporting is half-baked at best, especially if you’re still using words like authoritarian seriously.

                  That, or...

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      Of course he’s from lemmy.world lmao

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      Almost a shame to remove this one’s comments. This was goddamn hilarious how smug and ignorant this “leftist” liberal is. Couldn’t have made a better parody no matter how hard I tried.