• LordBelphegor@lemm.ee
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      tankies are a special kind of left, to them authoritarianism, genocide and aparthied are ok if it fuels ‘the revolution’.

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              Ah yes, if are against the revolution, u must be a capitalist. Personlaly I am a democratic socialist.

              But i am aware of red propaganda to hijack socialist spaces, spread CCP propaganda of how they did nothing wrong and everything is some CIA op.

              Its incredible how much humanity tankies lack when govts commit atrocities against their own just to stay in power. Killing local languages and cultures. Forcing people to rid of their identity and replaced by whoever is in the majority. Assaulting dissidents in foreign soil.

              Censorship is ok as long the red side is doing it. Fuck the Uigyurs right cuz they arent Han Chinese Mandarin speaking people, fuck the Tibetans right cuz they arent Han Chinese, fuck the Inner Mongolians and their desire to keep their language alive? Fuck Taiwan right, my imperialistic goal is more important than the will of Taiwanese. Fuck South East Asia right? The whole of the South China Sea belongs to me cuz i said so. Fuck Indian borders right, my imperialist tendancies are important. The CCP seems quite racist to me.

              Your whole rhethoric is to use copy pasta of long paragraphs and claim everyone against the red army are US spies, when infact we are neither. You are not a communist or socialist, you are an agent of authoritarianism and a prime example of the horse shoe theory.

              Even the left is not with you. You are simply an autocrat disguised as a leftist.

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        Source?

        The US currently runs a system of slave labor camps, has been bombing Muslims and Africans for decades, and Europe has been doing the same for hundreds of years. Are these trustworthy sources of information to tell you about their enemies?

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          Not to lean to heavy on the whataboutree but you can’t really use that as an excuse when the criticism is coming from the left. They don’t support the other thing either, so it seems almost like deflection from valid criticism and a missed opportunity to tackle a contradiction.

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            The US has > 800 external military bases. Every other country combined has < 20. Which one is credible?

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              Why don’t you apply dialectical materialism and tell me what you think. You’d get a lot farther than using a thought-terminating cliché.

              Or put a little more directly, what makes more sense in taking down that behemoth: finding common ground with people who ultimately want the same thing as you, or dying on a hill and banishing anyone who disagrees with something that isn’t even relevant in this day and age?

              It’s a deeply reactionary urge to want to win the ideal at the cost of the material. It’s why liberalism has gotten as far as it has.

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                Sure, diamat would say that in the age of super-imperialism that we’re now in, where the majority of surplus value comes from super-exploited global-south proletarians, demands that one or a group of countries must use violence to enforce that order, and keep the exploited countries weak and poor.

                Capitalism’s current enforcer is the US, with its military might, dollar hegemony, and media monopoly. That is why the US has so many external military bases. They don’t have them because they’re fun to build.

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                  Then you can see how people would want to go from hyperexploitation to no exploitation, rather than daydreaming of the lesser of two evils.

                  Actually, most people are libs who genuinely got off twitter so they could join bluesky, so they want slightly less hyperexploitation 😒

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          You’re saying that like Russia and China don’t have slave labor camps and haven’t been bombing Africans and Muslims for decades.

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            No, he has said nothing about China or Russia. (Self?) criticism is a sign of maturity and wit. Being a western and adhere to western values doesn’t imply assuming justifying it all. In the west we do not have total freedom of speech and/or pluralism of information and, yes, there are worrying “new” forms of slavery.

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              China and Russia are absolutely relevant, since this post is about tankies. This isn’t deflecting critique of the west, it’s pointing out the hipocrasy of using these faults in the US as a defence of Russia/China.

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            You’re saying that like Russia and China don’t have slave labor camps and haven’t been bombing Africans and Muslims for decades.

            Where on earth are you getting this?? China hasn’t been involved in an external conflict since the 60s!

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              Admittedly China hasn’t militarily invaded another country since it’s invasion of Vietnam in 79. Though the Uyghur genocide doesn’t strike me as a lot more benevolent than the ongoing wars in Africa and Middle East.

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                The majority of the world (notably the vast majority of Muslim countries, who would be burdened with a refugee crisis if there were an actual genocide) doesn’t think China is killing Uyghurs. Only the imperial core countries, that have been bombing Muslims for decades think that:

                Here’s the people telling you that China is killing Muslims:

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    Lmao that literally just happened to me. Everyone who doesnt praise the invisible hand of the free market is a tankie, apparently.

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    My biggest gem is getting an equally heavily upvoted and downvoted comment explaining why I censor the word r—

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        It’s real. I did it as a screenshot because I don’t want a bunch of people bigrading the original post.

        From what I understand lemmy outright lacks the great anti-brigading resources that reddit has, meaning one community can just come in and dogpile on a post in a completely other community and there’s no way for anyone to defend against it or even know it’s happening. If you don’t know just how toxic that is to the website, realize that reddit literally goes as far as to protect leftists when they get dogpiled by nazis. Same site which does everything in its power to suppress anything left of hitler if it can get away with it. Yeah, it’s that important.

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    Such a funny and entertaining meme made by our sponsor Mematic who is the only meme making tool worth your time

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    Stop saying we should kill everyone who happens to be rich and then I will stop treating you like you commited “conspiracy to murder”

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    Two things are true:

    1. There are too many tankies on lemmy
    2. Stalin is responsible for the deaths of millions of Ukranians
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        the kulaks were responible for the deaths of millions of Ukrainians

        If you were repeating this Soviet propaganda in 1933 that would be one thing.

        However repeating it 90 years later, after we know it’s bullshit, well that takes a special kind of stooge.

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            You’re going backwards comrade. You’re supposed to deny the deaths happened before you blame the kulaks.