Edit: we might end up redoing the survey, please read this comment!!

First things first, thanks to everyone that took the survey!

So, one thing we were not aware of is that questionpro (the software we used to make the survey) only lets you have 300 responses to a survey before they close it. Obviously they would not tell you that before they sell you their 1200$ a year subscription. We reached that limit and can’t access the data. Now they want us to email them to download this data, which I’m reluctant to do (but still might do) because of, you know, the whole communism thing. Also if we download the data we still need a way to visualise it.

So yeah, sorry about that. I’d used questionpro before for a ProleWiki survey and picked it exactly because they didn’t seem to have a respondent limit.

I did save a screenshot of the analytics at the 301 mark, so we can still publish the results of the survey. However, I’m not sure there’s any point in setting it up again for the few people that haven’t taken it yet, considering they represent around 50 users or so.

This survey was mainly made for fun and out of curiosity, so I’m not sure it’s worth trying to download the data, import it to another provider if we can (I was recommended framaforms), and hold the survey for the few people that didn’t take it yet.

At the same time, I totally get it would suck for the people who haven’t had a chance to take the survey yet to be locked out from it.

Regardless of any solution we find, we’ll find a better provider for next year if we run this survey again.

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    If we’re going to redo the survey, please let’s fix the ethnicity question beforehand!!

    How would you prefer this question be asked, and which options should it have?

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      Divide race and ethnicity! While the concept of race still follows the western ideological purview, it’ll make things much easier to visualize!

      Also, Slavic would be a good option to see for ethnicity, since it encompasses a large part of the worlds population, and is a recognized ethnic group.

      Jewish and Roma would also not be bad options.

      Mediterranean White and Nordic are also a decent options.

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    I’m an impatient person so I say publish the results lol

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      I agree, if you have the results, it’d be nice to see them, but I don’t mind taking another survey later on.

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    If they give the data I can help visualise it. Not bragging or anything but I have used matplotlib once.

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    I would not mind retaking it. It only took most of us like three minutes to do besides you lovely creators. I can respect you not wanting to go through the effort to redo it, but if you’re willing then great.

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    There’s essentially two possibilities:

    a- we close the survey here, with n=301 respondents, and give you the results shortly. Out of around 350 users, we have a very low margin of error on the results we do have.

    b- we try to transfer the data to another provider (if we can), and try to restart the survey somewhere else. Would take a lot of time to get the data and set everything up again but afterwards, if it works, everyone would be able to finish taking the survey.

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    I wouldn’t draw any attention to the dataset by asking for it via email. Unfortunate you didn’t look into their policies and prices, rules, privacy policy (very important for a group like us), etc more but it happens.

    As to emailing them, they’re going to give you a hard sell most likely, may not even give you all the data you want, etc. Live and learn IMO.

    I never got the chance to respond myself and I would honestly say just do it over again, the people who took it are going to mostly be regulars who will see it and be able to re-take it.

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      I think it would probably be easier to just redo the survey. Although we gathered 300 responses, it only ran for 3 days, so it’s not a “huge” loss per se, I can redesign it on framaforms which allows 1000 survey responses and hopefully we won’t reach those.

      Unfortunate you didn’t look into their policies and prices, rules, privacy policy (very important for a group like us), etc more but it happens.

      I’d like to clarify on that though 😁

      Questionpro has a good privacy policy: while they can access your results (obviously, as the provider), you remain the owner of the survey and its data. Most other survey solutions also say somewhere what a free account allows, including so many responses per survey. In the case of questionpro, they hid that far enough that you wouldn’t find it before you design the survey.

      The only provider that doesn’t cap your responses is Google Forms (that I know of) but you know, it’s Google.

      The only way to avoid any of this corporate bullshit from any survey software would be a self-hosted solution, which framaforms offers through yakforms. We’re considering it for ProleWiki actually as we’re interested in running surveys, but it does take some VPS resources as you need to run it on the Drupal CMS. But if we end up self-hosting for ProleWiki we’ll be able to offer surveys to Lemmygrad too.

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        Ah I see. I apologize for being presumptuous. Thank you for the correction.

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    Ahh, I was going to offer to help plot and analyze but just saw you don’t have the data.

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      I have the plotted data up to 301 responses (and took the link down afterwards) 😄 what we wouldn’t have is data after 301 responses if we kept the link up.

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    Is it possible to do another survey but to limit it to the people who didn’t answer yet(go on the honor system or whatever else you can do to limit it to them)? I answered the first time around so I’m all good, but is that possible?

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      Technically yes (on the honor system), but then you have to find a way to merge the two datasets together.

      edit: we also have to request the data from questionpro because apparently they want you to contact them to download your own data (literally you’re the owner of it according to their ToS) once they block your survey lol. Guarantee you they’ll ask you in live chat or on a phone call and then try to sell you their abusively expensive plan.

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    Could you use something like AnonAddy or SimpleLogin to make a temp burner email that you can nuke after you get the data?