• ComradeSalad
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    There are a few inaccuracies in the map.

    Sudan is outdated, there is current construction of a Russian air and naval base at Port Sudan that was started at the beginning of this year.

    The US also has an established base in Tunisia in Bizerte.

    There is also an established US military base in Mali in Bamako.

    China has a base in Equatorial Guinea under construction.

    Canada has an established base in Senegal.

    Turkey has established large bases in Libya and Somalia under their control.

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      Well, my diagnosis is still severe lack of Chinese bases.

      It would be great if there were no bases, but that’s not happening any time soon and better Chinese bases.

      P.S. What’s up with Djibouti? Why so many bases in such a small country?

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        Djibouti has a strategically vital location for protecting the straits between the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea which leads toward the Suez Canal that is the main sea route from the Indian Ocean and Asia to the Mediterranean and Europe. Unfortunately this is one of those remnants of European colonialism that split off a tiny part of a larger territory to more easily control an important thoroughfare or port, similar to other such artificial constructs like Singapore, Kuwait, Panama, Hong Kong, Gibraltar, etc. In that sense it’s not really a real country and if not for European colonalism would be part of one of the larger neighboring states.

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        Eh, China doesn’t really have a need for bases in most of these countries. Some like Djibouti make sense for their insane geopolitical and strategic importance, but for example there is no reason for China to have a base in Burkina Faso or Angola. It just doesn’t make sense and is a financial and resource drain if there isn’t an express need for a permanent base.

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          Djibouti is iirc explicitly for the purpose of protecting shipping, a huge part of chinese export to Europe come through Red Sea and there was high pirate activity there so China send PLAN ships to protect their trade, i remeber watching videos with chinese frigates escorting small ship convoys.

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            Of course, though that responsibility is regulated by the UN to protect shipping lanes from pirates, terrorists, and hijackers in the Red Sea and Indian Oceans. So the PLAN, US Navy, British, French, and a large number of world navies participate and take turns protecting shipping.

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          I guess. I would just feel better if I knew there were some based forces there ready to deal with…you know, “spontaneous” “revolutions”.

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            Eh, that can run the risk of getting really dangerous and might ruin China’s diplomatic image. Because much like US bases, what country want want a military base in their country from another nation when that nation just used their military base somewhere else to incite a “spontaneous revolution”.

            Its a fine line that probably should best be left alone.

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    US military is a viral infection contracted through the nose, mouth, and having a democratically elected leader anywhere to the left of H*tler

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    How is Djibouti able to have so many different military bases in it?

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      They control one of the most vital trade routes on the planet. Millions of tons of cargo passes though, and it is an immensely important tactical, and strategical geopolitical area.

      They also act as an anti-piracy base for fleets for various countries that take turns patrolling the Red Sea and Indian Ocean from potential pirates, terrorists, or smugglers.

      Basically they allow everyone because it’s easier for them. Plus they get free investment from all the countries, for example their port facilities have increased immensely due to investment from the Chinese, US, and French navies.

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        I understand the importance of Djibouti, just was curious about how that plays into their own security. They play two dances to the ball but with like multiple Navies? Honestly seems like a sweet gig.

        So if they have more bases from different nations, does that mean they are LESS likely to get destroyed between warring states?

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          They don’t really have to dance with opposing sides since everyone pays them for access, and it is mutually beneficial and agreed upon in the UN that Djibouti is a good staging area for anti-piracy operations. Plus it is roughly halfway between Europe and Asia, so it is a good refueling and repair station for world navies and shipping lines. And the way it basically works is that the shipyards, drydocks, docks, and moors are paid for by corporations and navies but neutral, open to being used my all, and owned by Djibouti itself.

          It’s a pretty good deal. Plus they would be absolutely be immune to basically any regional or civil conflict. Though in any worldwide conflict like China Vs US, most case scenario there would definitely be a scramble to occupy the nation and its facilities. As whoever controls Djibouti basically controls the Red Sea, Suez canal, and Indian Oceans. Though it would most likely be sparred the worst of the conflict since its facilities are worth more intact, and best case scenario it would become a neutral port state like Portugal during WW2.

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            Wow, it does seem like a pretty good deal. The more you know. :)