• CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    kim-drip

    Why would the DPRK ever need the ability to bypass North Atlantic Treaty Organization defenses when the DPRK is nowhere near the North Atlantic? Somebody who is good at geopolitics please explain

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    Does South Korea have any significant vanguard party right now? Have the workers developed class consciousness?

    I don’t think South Korea has anything to worry about in the short to medium term, because I can’t see North Korea making the mistake of rolling tanks into a country where the masses aren’t ready to welcome them.

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      The leader is very unpopular, his approval rating is currently 20% approval, 71% disapproval according to Morning Consult, reaching lows of 18% approval, 75% disapproval.

      Also there have been strikes against neoliberalism, US robbing the country, anti-war protests and getting the president to resign. Ryomyong.com covers resistance to him. http://ryomyong.com/index.php?page=south

      As for a SK communist party, there’s http://pdp21.kr/ but it’s small, there’s also Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front which is an underground DPRK org in SK.

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        As for a SK communist party, there’s http://pdp21.kr/ but it’s small

        For reasons relating to South Korean Law, there are no communist parties in South Korea. Any political party in the south should not be colloquially called a communist party.

        The People’s Democracy Party of South Korea for example calls itself a progressive party that calls for pacifism, increased national autonomy from American interference, women’s rights and liberation, and a more democratic government that better represents the hard-working citizens and agricultural specialists of South Korea.

        So let us be respectful of the PDP and South Korea’s laws by not calling any progressive party a communist party. Because that would be illegal.

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          Were I to discuss the party in the future, I’d follow your suggestion regardless, but are the words of anglophones on the internet really what is keeping the occupation government from killing the PDP?

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            This is more to help keep unnecessary active awareness of non-state actors away from our work whenever members of the PDP travel abroad, in addition to avoid the stigmatization that comes with Koreans being communists in a world where the DPRK exists as one of the most propagandized AES states on earth.

            Imagine being a Korean, and when telling someone about your ethnicity they without fail in the first sentence ask “North Korean or South Korean?” or some variant along those lines. Other than that being a part of my and many korean-american’s lived experiences, it serves as a constant reminder that Communist Korea exists as a constant in the minds of nearly everyone in the West. It does pay to be careful sometimes lol.

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        Does Korea have their own “Vietcong”? By “Vietcong”, I meant the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam that was extremely popular with the South Vietnamese populace, especially in the countryside.

        Without a “Vietcong”, I can’t imagine any way that DPRK is going to unify Korea.

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      The DPRK is popular in the ROK, but it’s hard for me to see North or South Koreans supporting another Korean War. Most South Koreans, in my experience (lived there for years and married one as an ESL teacher) view Japan, the USA, and (sadly) China as the enemy.

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    Missile interception and defence has always been a large grift, since the Reagan era “star wars” nonsense, followed by the Israeli Iron Dome. Outside of basic projectiles or slower moving objects, it’s incredibly hard to intercept something. Objects traveling at multiple times the speed of sound with the capability to steer themselves (which the latest North Korean missiles are capable of, someone please correct me if I’m wrong) are going to be very difficult to intercept with current technology.

    Though I guess it’s good to put the theory into practice.

  • ᜐ᜔ᜉᜍ᜔ᜆᜈ᜔ ᜇ᜔ᜌᜓ︀-193
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    Even though I still think the DPRK is too weak militarily to retake their lands, it’s impressive that they managed to still build missiles despite the crippling sanctions.

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      People tend to underestimate just how technologically advanced DPRK really is. Western propaganda keeps trying to paint it like some backwards state that’s about to collapse and where everybody is starving. However, it used to be a major industrial hub in the days of USSR. It has a highly educated workforce, and they just got unlucky with resources and lack of arable land. Now that Russia is full on cooperating with DPRK, I expect we’ll be seeing a lot of economic growth happening there.

      Russia has food and fuel which are the two things DPRK needs, meanwhile Russia has a problem with an overheating economy where there’s already practically full employment. So, they actually need industrial partners and workers to expand their industry. And this is where DPRK comes in with having a strong industrial base and a skilled workforce. They already started opening up special economic zones for this.

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        The DPRK is literally the perfect example of a civilization building game where you have everything you CAN max out, maxed out, and are only kneecapped by the game having a pre determined point at which you are allowed new resources. So the second you get said resources you just fucking explode out of the gate.

        They are doing all they can with limited resources. They have the work force, education, drive, etc. Once more countries stop caring about what the US says and starts trading with them they will advance so rapidly they might have to worry about cultural whiplash.

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          Next few decades could be glorious to watch. We might see the west go into a steep decline while all the countries the west has been deriding and jeering at will start developing rapidly.

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            I just want to live long enough to see the US abandon SK and see how quickly it falls.

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              If US ends up starting a war with Iran, which is starting to look increasingly likely, they simply might not be in a position to do anything for SK.

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                Idk how they intend to start a war with anyone. What do they even have left they haven’t shipped off to Ukraine or Isn’treal?

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                  Right, like they’re openly admitting that the stocks are running dry. What’s the thought process here?

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        Highly reccomend this book

        https://www.phaidon.com/store/design/printed-in-north-korea-the-art-of-everyday-life-in-the-dprk-9780714879239/

        Its a collection of indie artists from NK, curated by a UK artist; he says in the book from just travelling around and going place to place in NK over 30 years he got meeting some of the most talented artists hes ever seen, comparing some of the wood etchings they saw with masters of respective crafts like da vinci.

        Its also just a really good insight into how NK people view themselves

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          holy shit. those are wood block prints?

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            The bottom two are, not all of them are but wood block carving into prints is the most common form of art in NK.

            They have state run art universties, there biggest output is actually statues, they produce the most out of any in the world and export them all over.

            This bottom one is a wood carving, another 10/10

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            The person in the book does, I can go check that out.

            Its sad because the curator of the book has been trying to get an exhibit of there work up to give the artists some recongition but it always gets cancelled due to ‘human rights concerns’ which is absurd because most of these artists they want to represent are simply just either hobbyists or full time artists employed by the state, but either way have been taught by it.

            It really speaks for the cultural supression of north korea, the west is actively trying to prevent its subjects from even remotely humanzing there forever war enenmy.

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              Human rights are a great scam, you can get anything passed under human rights. Nevermind that refusing these artists to get their work exposed further isolates them and helps justify further hostile acts because if you can’t get to know them, you can’t get to humanize them like you said. It’s like sanctions.

              But damn I love that forest print.

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      They dedicate a lot of resources to the military and i expect them to be much more efficiently used than in the west.