I knew people on lemmy.ml wasn’t as cool as the folks here no grad, but wasn’t expecting this shit getting 30 upvotes

  • loathesome dongeaterA
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    why America is in the wrong in every single event

    They are though. Like I can’t think of an example of an international conflict after the WW2 where the US was not on Satan’s side. Even from my very limited knowledge, I can list about ten examples where they caused widespread destruction and destitution just to further the interests of their capitalist class. Most of these examples, like Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Vietnam are downright psychotic. I don’t know why being critical of the US is a controversial pain point for these people.

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      Don’t have to tell me twice comrade, I’m Brazilian, and operation condor wreaked major freaking havoc here in our continent, it is one of the saddest things I ever learned about, in local recent history, it boils my blood in a way that I lack the words to express.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Because china worse. How terrible would it be if China was doing coups/wars in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Vietnam etc.?

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      Operation Paperclip was America’s plan to integrate Nazi officers into the American government and economy.

      • D3FNC [any]@hexbear.net
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        And operation bloodstone was America’s plan to take the worst nazi war criminals and give them carte blanche to run our intelligence services

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          Did the USA government also recruited Nazi scientists to conduct illegal/unethical experimentations on Indigenous First Nation children in Indian Residential fake schools that inspired the Nazi death camps and might still continue in secret as “atonement” for the Nazi scientist war crimes in the Nazi German Holocaust?

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      In the 1960s they supported the Saudi Kings and brought stability and democracy to the region.

      Oh wait…

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
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      They kinda supported the Kurds* when the Kurds helped fight ISIS**.

      *Does not apply to Kurds in Turkey or Kurds in Iraq once the US’s puppet gov’t restored order or all Kurds in Syria.

      **Which the US created via their post-saddam policies, and armed via the “moderate syrian rebels” most of whom joined or immediately surrendered to ISIS.

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    Why are libs so quick to defend the US? They act like the criticism is directed towards them personally, it’s bizarre. They can acknowledge that this country is gerrymandered to hell and that our representatives are the employees of rich businessmen instead of public servants… but then they defend every policy these politicians make as if they’re the politicians themselves.

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      Maybe it’s a side effect of the nationalism that the US tries so hard to instill in their populace from a young age. Results, probably quite intentionally, in any slight to the country being perceived as a slight to them personally. Which isn’t the case at all, I don’t necessarily discount all USians due to where they are born until they give me reason to, which most do.

      On that note, do US children still do that weird daily flag pledge thing? Always seemed particularly dystopian to me.

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        Yes we still do loyalty oaths every morning before class starts and oftentimes kids have to say it even when they’re doing school remotely. Like, they recite the prayer with their classmates on a zoom call lol.

        Even though it’s technically illegal to force anyone to say it, it’s rare that the option is seriously presented to kids and respected by teachers.

        • 新星 [they/them/🏳️‍⚧️]
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          Yeah, it takes until middle and high school for students to realize and stop saying it, even though they still have you stand for it if you don’t say it

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      If they believed you could do better than liberal democracy, they wouldn’t be libs!

      So they acknowledge all the problems because they’re the Adults In The Room but chalk it up to “every other system is worse, so I guess we have to vote harder.”

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    Dastardly authoritarian orangutanian red fash tankies, praising socialist states that have to do so little with communism… They should follow our examples of communism instead, of much more influence and with a much more lasting legacy for communists worldwide. We are the only ones who truly know how to liberate the working class. RIP CHAZ 2020-2020.

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      Someone’s only called a tankie if they come from the Tanqueray region of England, otherwise they’re a sparkling AK-47.

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    “While having few if any leftist qualities”

    I presume that their operating definition of “leftist qualities” are American Democrats.

  • Aria
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    The upvotes can be from any instance, probably not from Lemmy.ml users.

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      Makes sense but even so, it surprised me,for the sheer volume, but yeah makes me less shocked with the situation

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    I tried to help educate in that post with my lemmy.ml alt. Except in the case of that shitty comment, which I dunked. lemmy.blahaj.zone is cursed.

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      Liberals don’t have values, so they run cover by morally judging others.

      Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child’s toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. sunday-friend tequila-sunset

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    Just wanna say, that you folks, specially the hexbear crew around, really showed up, and represented our communities, I am so proud of being in the midst of such cool people all around.

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    Do Ultras call people tankies? Generally it’s them calling people revisionists, Stalinists, Dengists, things along those lines. Looks more like a reactionary liberal to me.

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      “Campist,” but yeah this mostly just seems like a lib.

      I bet they’d describe themselves as a communist though, the whole “they think they’re supporting communism, but those countries aren’t reaaaaally communist” thing.

    • comrade-bearOP
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      I was not sure if this was her or on shit libs say, but since I got it on lemmy.ml I thought here might be more appropriate but yeah I wasnt sure