comrade-bear

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Cake day: 2023年8月24日

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  • I’m sorry comrade but it’s still proletariat, as I said not the most precarious, but still if you are not bourgeoisie, you are proletariat, that is elementary, there is no two ways about it. I do not want to redeem the military forces I do not believe we can change the institution, but I think directing propaganda towards them can yield benefits, if it’s the best way to go about it, that is to be pondered and decided, but still my point holds



  • I was gonna comment about thr unthinkable, there is even more substance to that, one researcher I follow talks about the fact that when the allies came to Italy they devised a deal with a Goebbels underling (likely speaking in name of the guy himself) to not fight the German units they come across and free them to join the German front against the communists. The idea behind that was the utter necessity (that can be clearly viewed when looking at gladio) of preventing the Soviets from getting to Italy and embolden the Italian communist movement and form a very potent alliance there.


  • Doing an updated take on my other comment, the army, and a lot of it also applies to the police forces, are composed of people, and no matter how you slice it, the vast majority are proletariat, not the most precarious proletariat, but proletariat, and it is unreasonable to believe that at least some part of those individuals, chose those careers because they believed it was the best pay they could get from where they came from, you understand unemployment you understand that most people do not choose jobs completely freely. That is one of the points I want to make clear and I believe this one is quite grounded in reality

    Next point, yes the job and function of those institutions is to oppress and discipline the proletariat overall, keep the people in their place, there is no doubt about that eithe, I’m not questioning that. But to claim that because of the atrocities committed by the organization every single member is either agrees or at least have no problems with does not track, it can be that even the majority is like that but still it’s not a forgone conclusion.

    Next point, even a small number of members of armed forces sympathetic to our cause can be of crucial strategic value, not because they can change things from the inside, but they can potentially offer training, inside information, among and myriad of other things

    Based on that I do think that the line of thought that goes: is part of the army = is and Nazi and I hate you. Achieves very little, makes their side of propaganda even easier, and prevents us from potentially getting strategic support from inside of crucial organizations

    Those are my thoughts on the subject, I have no beef with anyone that disagrees and I do completely understand the deep aversion from those forces, I do, the US military have been a very destructive force on my continent (South America) I have no love for the organization, neither for the US as a country as well, but I do understand that the people of the USA are not the responsibles for what the US as an nation does, just the same way that I don’t blame every soldier for the actions of the Pentagon




  • Well this Graham Planter guy seems to be a piece of shit indeed, but the general sentiment of the post you printed I’m in agreement with, the US military uses poverty to fill its ranks, so it is made of proletariat people, and there is benefit to disputing their hearts and minds, but it is a rough struggle to do so since they’re surrounded by strong ideological training, but does not mean it’s a useless struggle




  • I would think that China will never sign it, because I think this would be swiftly weponized against China(as you’ve said) with claims of genocide in Xinjiang and human rights violations in Tibet and all the same old westen song and dance, so I feel they’ll just run things their way, plus they don’t need this PR right now I’d wager, I think they are moving well towards their goals without the need to expose themselves to this kind of attack. So overall I don’t think they gain a lot doing it and stand to lose a bit, plus this PR you say is validation by the western powers, and I don’t think China is too worried with that validation as it’s much more worried with presenting themselves as an alternative to the western powers to the global south, so being more connected to them does them not too many favors