If these numbers are correct the Ukrainian Army is almost finished, no wonder the Western elites sound more and more hysterical. Information war won’t be enough to cover the disaster very soon.

Source: https://t.me/rybar

What do you think?

Compared to Russian official numbers on equipment, they look similar

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    The war is lost for Ukraine because every single tactical encounter is brutally stacked against them.

    They did competently score armor kills in the early stage of the war when Russia was mostly concerned with covering as much ground as possible. A moving army is vulnerable to ATGM ambushes and artillery kill zones. But now Russian strategy is completely different, it’s one positional battle after another relying on sheer fire power. Ukraine has withdrawn all its remaining armor and artillery to population centers and its poorly equipped and poorly coordinated army is just holding fortified positions waiting to be annihilated. Their attempts to ambush Russian forces are thwarted by drone vigilance and routinely fall to counter-attacks.

    The wisest thing Ukraine could do is abandon Washington’s deluded scheme of using the war to “weaken Russia” and instead sue for peace for the sake of its people. They’re not going to be able to weaken Russia even with all the western weapons and mercenaries they’re getting, and worse still, since both the military and economic wars against Russia have essentially failed NATO is likely to resort to unpredictable and poorly planned acts of escalation to try to get the upper hand, and that’s not a scenario in the middle of which the country wants to be stuck.

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      The wisest thing they could do is get the USSR back together. Ditching Washington and suing for peace is also a smart option, but not the one that will lead to the best possibly outcome for the Ukrainian people.

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        An even smarter option would be to revive the warsaw pact, and have the party purged of all reactionaries. Marxism Leninism leads the east once more!

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      The wisest thing Ukraine could do is abandon Washington’s deluded scheme of using the war to “weaken Russia” and instead sue for peace for the sake of its people

      Putin want’s to dismantle Ukraine and destroy Ukrainian identity, as stated in articles published by Kremlin over the past few months. For Ukrainians there can be no negotiated peace as long as what follows is murder, rape, pillaging and enslavement Golden Horde style.

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        What a load of bs…

        Here is the quote from Vlad on what the objectives are;

        «We will seek to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine and put to justice those that committed numerous bloody crimes against peaceful people, including Russian nationals.»

        Where does it say anything about destroying identity? Atleast link the sources you claim to have

        ‘Murder, rape, pillaging and enslavement Golden Horde style’

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          Here’s the English translation of the Kremlin propaganda article : https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/what-should-russia-do-with-ukraine-translation-of-a-propaganda-article-by-a-russian-journalist-a3e92e3cb64

          «We will seek to demilitarize and denazify

          What does that even mean? How does that make sense to you? Can you explain in your own words without repeating state propaganda?

          Where does it say anything about destroying identity?

          To quote from the article above, "Denazification will inevitably include de-ukrainization”.

          You may be gullible enough to believe Putin’s bulshit rationalizations but the reality of the last 3 months is that Russian army invaded another country, sieged it’s cities, killed thousands of civilians and caused millions of refugees to flee from their path.

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            Nice bait! Your so called ‘Kremlin propaganda article’ is a readers post from Timofey Sergeytsev, a film producer and adviser to Victor Pinchuk, a Ukranian businessman and oligarch. Those words do not come from Kremlin at all. You didnt even post the article itself, you posted a pro western braindead take on whats said in article.

            This is like taking something bat shit crazy from a Trump propagandist and posting it as ‘Washington propaganda article’.

            I wont even dignify your questions with a proper response. Give me a source thats not linked to Ukranian oligarchs like fucking

            Victor Pinchuk

            Has been a member of the Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, for two consecutive terms from 1998 to 2006

            What is Verkhovna Rada?

            Verkhovna Rada or just Rada is the unicameral parliament of Ukraine. Verkhovna Rada insignia:

            Who is the largest group of the Verkhovna Rada?

            Servant of the People (240)

            what is Servant of the People?

            Party of President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy

            These are the guys you get your sources from. And you call me gullible lol… Damn was i right when i called you a projector.

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              The article is basically a blueprint for genocide against Ukraine. It’s published by a state owned news agency. if it wasn’t in line with Kremlin’s views it would’ve been censored or taken down.

              Calling ukrainians “nazis” is a lame excuse for yet another Russian invasion, absent any convincing evidence. Fighting invading forces in their own country certainly doesn’t make them nazis. Where is the actual evidence of Nazism?

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                bLuEpRiNt fOr GeNoCiDe

                The article is bullshit fake news with direct ties to Ukranian goverment as i proved in the last post.

                no nazis in Ukraine

                Even the ukronazis makes fun of this statement: https://files.catbox.moe/tonipt.MOV

                Look man, there is no easy way to say it but you have been bamboozled. You are not immune to western propaganda.

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                  Antisemitism? You do realize they elected a Jewish president, right?

                  Far right/neo nazi groups? Yeah, there are idiots like these in every country, even in Russia. Doesn’t mean the general public supports them or that they have any political power.

                  Banderas? He’s mostly commemorated as a nationalist who fought for an independent Ukraine. Stalin is still celebrated, yet he didn’t mind making a pact with Nazi Germany in 1939 link.

                  These are not legitimate reasons for destroying a country and it’s people.

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                Lmao Nazis existing must be dealt with, you realize how fucking bad nazis are right? Well these Nazis are basically fucking in charge, they are militarized, and they are genocidal freaks. I say take it to the romainian border, but putin seems to only want to protect the eastern regions.

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            Look up US funded Euromaidan, check out the Alley Of Angels in Donbass, check out cartoons dating back to early 2010s of Ukrainian memes that depict Donbass citizens as overdrinking stupid Russian caricatures.

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        fuck off nazi loser. Go back to Reddit. There you can post as much nazi propaganda and lies you want. Here we can proudly say: death to nazi scum!

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        If it wasn’t for Lenin, there wouldn’t even be Ukrainian identity, shit-for-brains

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    it would be nice if it specified if “losses” meant casualties or deaths. (no they aren’t the same)

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      The first image breaks it down into deaths, injuries, and captures. The second image is only about military equipment. And tanks and planes don’t die per se, so I think it’s all pretty unambiguous.

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      Sry, non native english speaker here. What is the difference? Tried googling but not sure. ‘Casualty’ in this sense is when someone/something killed them and ‘deaths’ would be if they died from like an illness or heart attack?

      Casualty’: a person who is hurt or killed during an accident, war, etc.

      Deaths’: the action or fact of dying or being killed; the end of the life of a person or organism.

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        A casualty is defined as any injury, regardless of severity, that makes a soldier unable to fight.

        Technically speaking, if a person stubbed their toe hard enough and they lose their ability to walk for a while, they’d be considered a casualty.

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        I believe casualty refers to anyone injured enough in combat to not be sent back effectively killing them. While death refers to well yk being unalived. However, I could be wrong.

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          Aah got it, casualties include both injured and killed. Learning together even when we’re apart! Thanks