If these numbers are correct the Ukrainian Army is almost finished, no wonder the Western elites sound more and more hysterical. Information war won’t be enough to cover the disaster very soon.

Source: https://t.me/rybar

What do you think?

Compared to Russian official numbers on equipment, they look similar

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    The wisest thing Ukraine could do is abandon Washington’s deluded scheme of using the war to “weaken Russia” and instead sue for peace for the sake of its people

    Putin want’s to dismantle Ukraine and destroy Ukrainian identity, as stated in articles published by Kremlin over the past few months. For Ukrainians there can be no negotiated peace as long as what follows is murder, rape, pillaging and enslavement Golden Horde style.

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      What a load of bs…

      Here is the quote from Vlad on what the objectives are;

      «We will seek to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine and put to justice those that committed numerous bloody crimes against peaceful people, including Russian nationals.»

      Where does it say anything about destroying identity? Atleast link the sources you claim to have

      ‘Murder, rape, pillaging and enslavement Golden Horde style’

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        Here’s the English translation of the Kremlin propaganda article : https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/what-should-russia-do-with-ukraine-translation-of-a-propaganda-article-by-a-russian-journalist-a3e92e3cb64

        «We will seek to demilitarize and denazify

        What does that even mean? How does that make sense to you? Can you explain in your own words without repeating state propaganda?

        Where does it say anything about destroying identity?

        To quote from the article above, "Denazification will inevitably include de-ukrainization”.

        You may be gullible enough to believe Putin’s bulshit rationalizations but the reality of the last 3 months is that Russian army invaded another country, sieged it’s cities, killed thousands of civilians and caused millions of refugees to flee from their path.

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          Nice bait! Your so called ‘Kremlin propaganda article’ is a readers post from Timofey Sergeytsev, a film producer and adviser to Victor Pinchuk, a Ukranian businessman and oligarch. Those words do not come from Kremlin at all. You didnt even post the article itself, you posted a pro western braindead take on whats said in article.

          This is like taking something bat shit crazy from a Trump propagandist and posting it as ‘Washington propaganda article’.

          I wont even dignify your questions with a proper response. Give me a source thats not linked to Ukranian oligarchs like fucking

          Victor Pinchuk

          Has been a member of the Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, for two consecutive terms from 1998 to 2006

          What is Verkhovna Rada?

          Verkhovna Rada or just Rada is the unicameral parliament of Ukraine. Verkhovna Rada insignia:

          Who is the largest group of the Verkhovna Rada?

          Servant of the People (240)

          what is Servant of the People?

          Party of President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy

          These are the guys you get your sources from. And you call me gullible lol… Damn was i right when i called you a projector.

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            The article is basically a blueprint for genocide against Ukraine. It’s published by a state owned news agency. if it wasn’t in line with Kremlin’s views it would’ve been censored or taken down.

            Calling ukrainians “nazis” is a lame excuse for yet another Russian invasion, absent any convincing evidence. Fighting invading forces in their own country certainly doesn’t make them nazis. Where is the actual evidence of Nazism?

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              bLuEpRiNt fOr GeNoCiDe

              The article is bullshit fake news with direct ties to Ukranian goverment as i proved in the last post.

              no nazis in Ukraine

              Even the ukronazis makes fun of this statement: https://files.catbox.moe/tonipt.MOV

              Look man, there is no easy way to say it but you have been bamboozled. You are not immune to western propaganda.

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                Antisemitism? You do realize they elected a Jewish president, right?

                Far right/neo nazi groups? Yeah, there are idiots like these in every country, even in Russia. Doesn’t mean the general public supports them or that they have any political power.

                Banderas? He’s mostly commemorated as a nationalist who fought for an independent Ukraine. Stalin is still celebrated, yet he didn’t mind making a pact with Nazi Germany in 1939 link.

                These are not legitimate reasons for destroying a country and it’s people.

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                  You do realize they elected a Jewish president, right?

                  And my best friend is black, so i cant possibly be racist.

                  Do you know that Zelenskyj has ordered the ukronazis to remove their weapons for years, but they didnt listen to him? Here is a leaked video from a meeting he had with them in ~2019. Starts at 14min 44sec. The video also continue with how Zelenskyj eventually came to support the war.

                  Zelenskyj was pretty much forced to merge Azov and Aidar with the official military, the Ukranian national guard after the Maidan because of their participation in it, but they always hated him. They did not listen to orders from Zelenskyj to stop shelling Donbas, they just intensified it.

                  Here is videos of Ukronazis using IEDs and shelling of civilians in DPR less than a week before the operation started:

                  School shelled

                  IED kills 3 civilians

                  All NSFL of course.

                  Azov and Aidar are more than just a few nazis. Ukraine are the only official military in the world to have openly fascist and neo-nazi battalions like them, and they count in thousands. You also have groups like right sector etc that are huge.

                  Doesn’t mean the general public supports them or that they have any political power.

                  Did you even check out one of the articles here?

                  Stalin is still celebrated

                  Yes.

                  These are not legitimate reasons for destroying a country and it’s people.

                  Im not legitimizing shit, im just stating verifiable facts

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                    Thanks for sourcing the videos of shelling of civilians weeks before the invasion, effective and depressing way to express this conflict is definitely not unprovocated.

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                  I love how libs and nazis think they are infiltrating this place when in reality because they’re so stupid they instantly get smacked around when they post.

                  Everybody here is smarter than you and you are embarrassing yourself. Go back to reddit.

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                    libs and nazis think they are infiltrating this place

                    Strawman

                    get smacked around when they post.

                    “2+2=6 because everyone ganged up and said so!”

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                  If they loved Judaism so much, maybe Zelensky would be voting in line with Israel more often, they already have enough in common given the rampant Fascism in both countries. Btw USA had a black president that racists blamed everything on and nothing fundamentally changed for black people. I’m guessing Zelensky is quite the same. In politics it’s called Tokenism, it’s to make a minority group FEEL REPRESENTED but not really doing it

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              Lmao Nazis existing must be dealt with, you realize how fucking bad nazis are right? Well these Nazis are basically fucking in charge, they are militarized, and they are genocidal freaks. I say take it to the romainian border, but putin seems to only want to protect the eastern regions.

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          Look up US funded Euromaidan, check out the Alley Of Angels in Donbass, check out cartoons dating back to early 2010s of Ukrainian memes that depict Donbass citizens as overdrinking stupid Russian caricatures.

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      fuck off nazi loser. Go back to Reddit. There you can post as much nazi propaganda and lies you want. Here we can proudly say: death to nazi scum!

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      If it wasn’t for Lenin, there wouldn’t even be Ukrainian identity, shit-for-brains