Exit polls have Meloni’s coalition to have 45% of the vote. The imperial core is falling to fascism left, right and centre. Well, right and centre anyway. If we want a revolution we must hurry - I fear it may soon be too late to hold our ground against the fascists.

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  • @KommandoGZD
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    I don’t mean to sound defeatist, but talking about revolution with the state of European communism is utopian at this moment. Fascism is here already and we’re still shattered.

    What’s becoming more acute is the need for security and defence. This is gonna sound larpy as fuck, but history shows us these people will come after us at some point and we have to be prepared for that.

    Stay safe comrades, the Italians most of all atm.

    • @KrupskayaPraxis
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      222 years ago

      It’s terrible the fascists can take control without a strong left to challenge them

      • DankZedong A
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        142 years ago

        Where fascists rise, strong leftist movements will rise as well. Lot of European left wing people have been too complacent for the last years unfortunately but we must not get all doom and gloom

        • @Shrike502
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          92 years ago

          Where were leftist movements after 1991?

          • @B0rodinOP
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            72 years ago

            I think Spain had one but it collapsed after bending over backwards to placate the libs. There are leftists, the only problem is that most of them are thoroughly useless.

      • @B0rodinOP
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        142 years ago

        No matter what happens, we cannot lose hope. Whenever fascists take power, wage war against the peoples of the world, it is the communists that stand as the last bastion against the fascist spread. If we cannot have hope in ourselves, who can have hope in us? And if they cannot have hope in communists, who can have hope at all?

    • @Munrock
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      222 years ago

      Honestly the wise play for the European Left would be sabotaging the imperial core’s dwindling ability to oppress overseas so that global south comrades have a better chance. You want to bring down empire, starve it.

      • @B0rodinOP
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        92 years ago

        Right now, the imperial core is doing that anyway. But yes - if the global south pivots to China, and the West is sabotaged so as to have it hands tied - the red wave will reach out. I am not sure, though, if western MLs are actually capable of doing this. Not in terms of will - we all have the will - but in terms of ability. Many of us are barely organised, unable to truly grow for fear of being crushed. At best, MLs in the west are still skirting the edges of what Lenin called ‘legal Marxism’ - the self censoring of Marxism to get through western media blockage and to make it appealing as possible. We are not yet ready, comrade. This is the problem. What we could do, actually, is wage a war of attrition. Not to win, but to distract the imperialists so the global south can rise up. By then, however, we would be depending on the global south to help us afterwards. If you do not, we would be defeeated and the fascists - newly empowered by their domestic victory - would likely strike back at the global south. The only battle than can now be fought against the imperialists is a civil war. Any other would have the opposing anti-imperialist military either completely crushed, or would end in nuclear holocaust. Meaning ‘support’ from the global south would have to be when the civil war is still distracting the fascists, and would have to take the form of - what was the lovely, clinical imperialist term… - ‘lethal aid’.

    • DankZedong A
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      There are some good movements within Europe. Being aware and not getting all sunshine and rainbows is okay but defeatism will get us nowhere.

      If our movement was doomed to fail I alone wouldn’t have been able to mobilize 200 people into joining us for action in the last couple of weeks.

      I can’t speak for every European country of course but at least the people in my country are getting ready to stir shit up.

      • @B0rodinOP
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        112 years ago

        Agreed. We are slowly recovering from the damage done in the latter half of the 20th century. The only question is if we will be ready in time, and if the time will be right. If we are, we must remember that Mao took China in two decades, Lenin Russia in just over one decade, Castro Cuba in just 6 years. In times of qualitative change - as we are facing now - contradictory aspects are manifested in a thing far beyond their usual capacity. We do not need in a revolutionary period to gain majority support, only reach a critical mass. This, I believe, can be managed. The question is surviving long enough in a fascist nation to do so.

    • @B0rodinOP
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      112 years ago

      The best we can do is weaken the fascists. Stay out of harms way, launching probing attacks - primarily rhetorical but, if necessary, physical. The libs will be divided between those who are truly “”“leftist”“” (or at least anti-fascist) and those who are, as we have warned time and again, nothing more than disguised fascists. Let the libs destroy themselves and weaken the fascists while doing so. Soon - as has been the case time and again - we will be the only alternative. At that time we must trust in the masses and have faith in the veracity of our line that they will choose to side with us and we will be ultimately triumphant. It will likely cost many comrades: it is a dangerous course of action. But I fear it is the only one we have open to those of us in the imperial cor.e

      NO MERCY FOR THE FASCIST BASTARDS

    • @lxvi
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      42 years ago

      Latin America doesn’t seem shattered. There’s a lot of hope. The bourgeois dictatorship can’t survive without it’s slaves. Socialism is the only option for the world as well as for the West. Fascism will not resolve the contradictions of capitalism. It will collapse just as it did in the south.