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    I wouldn’t be surprised if the imperialist lackeys started hurling their favourite anti-semitic slurs (“self-hating jew”) against her at this stage, if they haven’t already.

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        Zionism is chiefly a secular project. For example, Herzl was infamously anti-semitic against religious eastern European jews.

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    She’s calling for a two state “solution” though. I guess this could be considered her hiding her power levels, on account of the US being right above her. Still sucks though

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      Hopefully someone with a better understanding will chime in if I’m at all off here, but from the standpoint of entities who are working on a larger scale, I believe the argument goes something like that a two state solution is incompatible with israel’s settler extermination goals, while also benefiting Palestine and Palestinian people vs. their current situation, and so sometimes it makes more sense as the position to take, even if it seems weaker on the surface than it is; because it is simultaneously the more diplomatic and peaceful position, while also being one that materially runs counter to what israel is about. For israel to truly embrace peace and accept the sovereignty and self determination of those they have dehumanized and targeted for extermination for decades implies losing the point of being out there in the first place, it implies having to give up on their ingrained culture of superiority and entitlement, it implies facing accountability on a large scale system level for what they have done in order to make the peace stick.

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        I honestly think that in order to reach a “1 state solution” they have to go through the 2 state solution. Israel as its currently exists cannot coexist with arabs and, thanks to israel barbarism, arabs cannot tolerate israelis. They need decades of goodwill to amend the decades of barbarism, obviously the new Israel state has to be fundamentally different than the current Israel otherwise no progress will be made.

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          Algeria liberated itself from France without the need for a “2-state” solution. Haiti, India, China, Lebanon, Syria, and many other nations have freed themselves from colonialism, without the need for a less than useless “2-state solution.”

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            completely different cases, in those cases the settlers were minorities. in Israel settlers have grown to be a majority, and thus the 1 state solution is not possible. genocide, unfortunately, works.

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              Majority in a region with ~200M Arabs?

              What? That’s like saying you can occupy Chihuahua because there will be more Americans than natives.

              Sure, if you completely disregard the existence of the rest of Mexico.

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                of course they can occupy Chihuaha if they kill enough natives, you don’t have to make up an hypothetical scenario it already happened in TEXAS. Or you know, literally all settler states.

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                  “If they kill enough natives”

                  You mean if they kill enough that the settlers outnumber the natives?

                  The fact that still Mexico exists is testament to the fact that you can’t kill everyone. Someone will be there to fight the settlers.

    • Many Israelis feared and continue to fear a two-state solution because the Palestine “territories” wouldn’t be crushed and could self-govern. That would terrify the “Israelis” that the nation needs the most to thrive economically: the tech sector, the university professors, the doctors, lawyers, judges, engineers, diplomats, etc. both keep the economy going, are also the ones who have the easiest pathway to flee. People tend to forget that the reason that Ian Smith’s White Minority Rule coalition lost in the elections was not because the white Rhodesians all of a sudden grew a heart and decided to help liberate the poor oppressed black Zimbabweans, but because the African Bush War had decimated Rhodesia’s economy due to a massive brain drain. All of these people left and the average white Rhodesian hated black people but was willing to vote for anything to stop the bleeding. If anything farmers refused to give up the racist fight even after the whites in government had agreed to end the white minority rule, these farmers told the new government that the natives would have control of their farms “over my dead body!” and they obliged.

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      lol thats bullshit, the us simply cannot break trade relations with mexico.

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        Sorry, I should have said “rupture” instead of “break”

        I mean the relationship will rapidly change in ways that are hard to predict, and for the worse. Mexico is already seeking to join BRICS and attracting a lot of Chinese investment, these are antithetical to US interests.

        This could also result in some Jakarta Method bullshit to remove her and install a US puppet to hunt down leftists.

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          Mexico has not expressed interest in joining BRICS actually, this has been officially debunked:

          https://www.eleconomista.com.mx/internacionales/SRE-desmiente-que-Mexico-haya-solicitado-su-adhesion-a-los-BRICS-20240303-0058.html

          This has been a talking point pushed by the (comprador) opposition to align us with “the axis of evil”, AKA the wrong side of history (fucking liberals) but its not true. Mexico is in an unique spot compared to other global south nations, our main trading partner is the US we cannot simply detach so its in our best interest to play both sides in this unique situation.

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            Very true. However, while playing both sides, we have fortunately gotten close to China and Rusia. If this trading partnership grows while the USA exhausts itself, it leaves us in a similar position as Brazil who is in both the G7 and BRICs.

            Evidence -> (With China) https://noticiaslatam.lat/20240920/transporte-agricultura-y-hasta-deportes-la-presencia-de-china-en-mexico-crece-dia-a-dia-1157650849.html

            -> (With Russia) https://noticiaslatam.lat/20240914/ciencia-tecnologia-y-cultura-mexico-tiene-un-la-oportunidad-de-estrechar-su-cooperacion-con-rusia-1157476472.html

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              Yes thats the advantage of playing both sides, we get concessions from both sides!

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              not close enough to china to prevent the biden administration from successfully pressuring the mexican government to make chinese EV manufacturing as difficult as possible to protect american companies by withholding tax and legal benefits for any chinese company that wants to setup shop in mexico.

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                Fortunately, the impact of removing the tax credits is very small or even unrecognizable. Also, Chinese EV manufacturing is already being done in Mexico with no issues whatsoever because the main market is Mexico for those EVs:

                Isidoro Massri, director of JAC in Mexico, assured that the prices of its models will not be affected after the end of the tariff exemption, thanks to the final assembly of its vehicles in the country, which allows them to avoid those additional costs. “We have a plant that allows us not to pay tariffs. When the product is assembled locally under the CKD (Completely Knocked Down) process, in which the modules are imported from China and assembled here, acquiring a Mexican VIN, no tariffs are applied,” he explained in an interview.

                Even if you check the EV market in Mexico, the Chinese EV are taking a big share and it is expanding with every passing day regardless of the pressure from the USA.

                https://expansion.mx/empresas/2024/08/26/subiran-de-precio-autos-electricos-importados-de-china

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                  also fortunately: some of those companies like byd have no choice but to expand or die; with or without subsidies.

                  i wonder how mexico will weather the next decade or so of american pressure driven by the one of the biggest and richest lobbying groups on this planet pressuring american presidents; congressmen & judges to make mexico & canada do its bidding to protect ford, gm and chrysler. (canada has already completely blocked them with tariffs like the americans did after similar pressure from the americans).

                  it’s not the first time mexico has been caught in a tug of war between the united states and the rest of the world, so i know that they have to experience to whether it; i just hope that the quality of life for the people i care about in mexico doesn’t continue to get worse as has been happening since the 1980’s.

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        You say that like the US would not try to strong arm and threaten to break trade relations. This is something I 100% see happening, and I hope, and truthfully expect Mexico to stand up to, but it is something I see as very likely for the US to attempt

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          Its empty threats, they literally cant decouple from México. In fact many industries are moving their production to México in what they call “nearshoring” in an attempt to decouple from China. They can’t decouple from China and México at the same time.

          This conjuction provides a ton of leverage for México, which fortunely coincided with the first nationalist gov in decades.

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          Fortunately for us mexicans, the USA has a lot in its plate at the moment with the active fronts and their plans to destabilize China with Taiwan. The current pressure over our country is with the reform of the judiciary branch, the energy sector(where even Washington’s John Kerry came to extort us) and their implementation of the migrant “solution”. Some of the pressure is done through the NED funding of some prominent ONGs that in turn fund the opposition to Morena.

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        Immigration, and particularly the visa program, is a factor of imperialist underdevelopment and dependency. The US vacuums up labor and then those workers send back remittances to their families, but because labor is the superior of capital it never makes up for the loss of labor power. Nevermind the fact that those workers often have their wages stolen and are subject to extremely dangerous working conditions.

        Trump’s coalition seems to have plans to blow this whole relationship up through a denaturalization scheme. Instead of superexploitation of migrant workers, they want to turn people born in the US into noncitizens and use them instead.

        Nightmarish, but it’s hard to see Mexico not pivoting towards the BRICS after that.

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          Trump’s coalition seems to have plans to blow this whole relationship up through a denaturalization scheme.

          I wonder what will happen to the children of naturalized immigrants? If they revoke their citizenship, they could gain even more slave labor.

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      Mexico cowtows the American line; she was only allowed to say this because Biden wasn’t paying attention.

      Once it’s brought to his attention; she’ll never mention Gaza again.