Torrent seeders I love you have a socialist fraternal kiss 💋
🥺Thanks, no homo though (maybe just a bit)
So no homo?
Better yet, you’re not forced to download the entire history of every torrent ever to download one torrent. And you don’t have to host every torrent ever to host one torrent.
You seed to get access to private torrents I seed because I hate capitalism and copyright We are not the same
I seed because I’m too lazy to stop the torrents. Sending >20GB daily.
Thank you for your service.
Seeders are truly built different.
the wildest bit here is that the torrent code base provided much of the basis for the coins, like the coins are literally recuperation of torrenting
distributed hash tables is mostly what I’m referring to here - this is where blockchain comes from
the wildest bit here is that the torrent code base provided much of the basis for the coins, like the coins are literally recuperation of torrenting
i’m pretty sure there isn’t anything from the bittorrent code base in bitcoin 🤔 but maybe in some other blockchain?
distributed hash tables is mostly what I’m referring to here - this is where blockchain comes from
Nope, bitcoin doesn’t actually use a DHT at all. Bittorrent has an optional one for “trackerless torrents”, but it is usable (and is very often used) without it. Notice how magnet URLs you find on torrent search engines are full of tracker hostnames - this is so that you don’t need to rely on the DHT.
Where they are similar, ironically contrary to this meme, is the seeding: nodes in bitcoin will (freely, without any payment) send historical chain data to anyone who requests it, just like torrent seeders do.
not seeking to start an argument over technical semantics, but DHT node count is displayed prominently in the bottom status bar of my bittorrent client
also:
Most distributed data stores employ some form of DHT for lookup.
Peer network node data stores
- BitTorrent
- Blockchain (database)
https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Distributed_data_store
:shrug:
DHT node count is displayed prominently in the bottom status bar of my bittorrent client
Yeah, that doesn’t contradict what i said - bittorrent has a DHT, and it is optional. (Many clients do use it, as well as the older non-distributed type of trackers, by default.)
Most distributed data stores employ some form of DHT for lookup.
I won’t argue about if “most” do but certainly many do not. In the case of a non-sharded blockchain like bitcoin, using a DHT for storage wouldn’t make sense. Some other blockchains probably do use DHTs for peer discovery or other things, but this is not an essential feature or “where blockchain comes from” at all. Most blockchains don’t use DHTs (and yet they could be called “distributed data stores”).
That page also links to https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table - but the existence of a page about DHTs on a wiki with “bitcoin” in its name does not mean that bitcoin uses a DHT 😄 (there are many pages on that wiki about things that have little or nothing to do with bitcoin).
DHTs are extremely overhyped in the p2p space imo. They tend to be awful for privacy, easy to attack in various ways, and generally unreliable - especially in an adversarial setting. Which is why, many years after bittorrent introduced its DHT, most clients still use old-style trackers by default too.
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there kinda is something wrong with the tech itself. it’s a solution for a problem no one asked for and just makes everything related to it really complicated and use up way too much time/power
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Git is essentially a block chain with a fully manual consensus mechanism.
I don’t disagree with you generally, though.
I’m definitely going to call myself a data-communist from now on!
Comrade xatab in our hearts!
