Just to let everyone know, I banned a few users from /c/anarchism for posting CIA propo about china from BBC, MSN, Atlantic, accusing people of homophobia with zero evidence, and shitting up /c/all.

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    5 years ago

    Good job

    It may be worth banning anarchism in its entirety

    The truth is r/communism on reddit and this site are an oasis in a desert of racist anti-chinese propaganda which its main aim is to loosen up the yankee public for war with China

    They have the entire of reddit that agrees with their foreign policy on China and raddle also

    Do they really need to come to a tankie site to shit up their views also?

    And seeing as anarchists never take a break to read history/philosophy/the workers movement they have a lot more time on their hands

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      The issue is we’re trying to be non-sectarian and allowed Anarchists to also have a space where they’re equally free from Reddit’s moderation, but as is too common online, we’re getting more internet anarchists than actual anarchists, and that doesn’t really help much.

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        Yep this. I know I’m sounding like a broken record, but I do want anarchists to have a space here, I’d just prefer it be oriented towards organizing against fascism and criticizing western capitalist dictatorships, and stay clear of CIA propo about China, VZ, Russia.

        I’m also up a community vote on mod policies regarding sectarianism, and anything else.

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          I do want anarchists to have a space here, I’d just prefer it be oriented towards organizing against fascism and criticizing western capitalist dictatorships, and stay clear of CIA propo about China, VZ, Russia.

          If so then why not just direct them to a general socialist sub for any kind of leftists to post in? I don’t really see the point of having anarchist subs if the content that’s allowed to be posted there are decided by Marxist-Leninists which has a lot of disagreements with anarchists and vice versa, especially regarding states that MLs critically support such as China.

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            5 years ago

            Not to self-promo here, but I made /c/leftism as a neutral ground for basically that reason (among others).

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          5 years ago

          So then the question is how we handle the discussion/vote on this issue, and who can participate. Would be cool if something like this could be implemented directly in Lemmy, but I understand if that is too much effort (and takes too much time).

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            5 years ago

            Maybe a first step would be an option to limit certain threads only to members of a community. For the vote we could use upvote count on comments, or an external site.

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              One of my other projects is a voting / polling site, we used it occasionally on LSC to do internal mod polls. You can see the list of everyone who voted, and you have an option to have the actual votes anonymous. There are also settings for turning on / off user input (users can add questions and options to polls)

              Here’s an example.

              https://simplevote.tk/#/poll/KrVx

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                Thats cool! The weighed voting seems complicated and confusing, especially with that many options. But maybe it makes more sense in a real poll.

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                  I added an example for the approval type voting in there now, its best for yes/nos, the olympic score / range voting is better for multiple option polls.

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        I understand but it should be noted that after the West engineered economic collapse in Yugoslavia they spent a huge propaganda campaign on the ‘evil serbs ethnic cleansing’.

        As a prelude to bombing serb hospitals, bridges, schools, the chinese embassy and dropping depleted uranium on them for refusing to give up their socialist system

        In regard to propaganda against China they are following that exact playbook with their ‘concentration camps’ ( whilst the US starves 7 million Yemenese )

        Given prominent yankees (Bannon) have promised war with China within 5 years this should be viewed as war propaganda by the US

        I think the stakes regarding anti Chinese propaganda should be looked at in this light imho

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        5 years ago

        What would you define as an “internet anarchist” as opposed to an “actual anarchist?”

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      I think we should have an internal discussion (either between mods, or between all /c/communism users), and then a vote on what we should do. I still think there is value in allowing anarchists here to let them learn about communism, as long as we prevent them from spreading western propaganda.

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        Understood

        The site is currently very off putting with all this cia shit

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          I’m sorry, its my bad, the nature of allowing open and easy registration is that we have to do janitor duty to clean it up after.

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            no props to you! this site is amazing. So responsive and quick

            Building a community is hard

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          Agreed, but I think that could be solved with better moderation.

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        yea that a good idea we should realy do a democratic vote with all /c/communism users

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          Not everyone on lemmy is subscribed to /c/communism, though. Would a site-wide referendum be better?

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        Okay that’s enough trolling Prince Kropotkin. Banned.

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          Lmao is that the same guy from reddit? I remember years ago everyone already hated him.

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            Yep, Prince Kropotkin, I forget much of the drama around them, except they were one of those “leftists” who unironically aligned with liberals and as such got to be the top mod of a few big subs.

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              I banned a user with that exact name not 15 minutes ago.

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        So you think we are the same person because we have the same politics? Or because I help to run the site? Help me out here because I dont get it.

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            oh no some rando on the internet called me a liar, what am i gonna do?

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                  That really sounds like projection based on his own behaviour. Conclusion, “thenewguy” is a p_k sockpuppet.

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                I wonder why he would bother to create a second account when he is already admin (and anyway most people support his decisions).

                edit: but I guess its a compliment for me :)

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      Anarchists are not a monolithic group smdh… I removed a 1 day repost of yet more anti-China graffiti.