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  • @Stalins_Spoon
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    292 years ago

    Then why do they continue to wear SS patches?

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    • @SpaceDogsOP
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      162 years ago

      But Ratto, didn’t you know the Ukrainians were just poor widdle babies, they didn’t know who they were fighting for, they just wanted peace 🥺

      Puh-lease, majority fought for the Red Army while the 100,000 or so co-conspirators worked with the Nazis.

      They weren’t naive little children, they weren’t fearful lambs just choosing the “lesser evil”, they knew what values and beliefs they were fighting for. I’m so done with the infantilization. Just because people didn’t have the internet back then doesn’t mean they lacked the ability to make their own informed decisions (working with Nazis was a bad decision but they still did it proudly)

      They made their choice loud and proud until near the end of the war when the Ukrainian Nazis fled to Canada to avoid persecution from the Soviets.

      One of the Nazis was made a prominent figure over here and we have monuments dedicated to Ukrainian Nazis. Our deputy Prime Minister is the granddaughter of said Nazi, and she’s proud of it.

      This alone shows that they willingly fought for fascists.

      History has been so sanitized and mangled, looking back on what I learned about WWII history; it boggles my mind how much was left out, and how much was blatantly lied about. Did you know I didn’t learn that Italy and Japan were on Germany’s side in WWII? They literally only talked about Hitler and Nazi Germany like they were the only country doing the fascism. Also USSR bad with no info on why lol.

      Sorry for text wall, I just wish I could say this on twitter without being blasted.

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        • @SpaceDogsOP
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          Two years ago someone vandalized the construction site sign for the “memorial” Lmao

          The CBC article is hilariously pathetic. Here’s a tidbit:

          Alongside the words are the hammer and sickle, a symbol associated with Soviet Russia and the communist ideology, but which is seen as offensive and hateful by those who view it as a stamp of oppression.

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            • @REEEEvolution
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              112 years ago

              You have to understand, Banderites are known to nailing babies to street signs, not for facing any sort of opposition. They propably shat and pissed themselves when they saw the hammer and sickle.

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    • @REEEEvolution
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      122 years ago

      Meanwhile millions of Ukrainians fought the axis invasion tooth and nail. From their rotating corpses unlimited energy could be harvested!

      • @SpaceDogsOP
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        112 years ago

        Communists fighting against fascism is always forgotten or rewritten as just two evils fighting one another.

        A lot of history is honestly kept away from the general public. As scholarly sources and more informative works are exclusive to those in academia making it inaccessible to most people; not because of intelligence, but because of money; poor people are encouraged to join the military for a chance of education while the bourgeoisie can skirt on by PTSD free. The bourgeoisie that are in academia? They’ve already pledged allegiance to capitalism as it’s been in their favour, and they don’t want class consciousness to spread as they know damn well what happens when it does.

        The education system that is provided is so watered down, and in the worst case, completely revised to fit a specific narrative. It’s perfectly designed.

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    • @SpaceDogsOP
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      122 years ago

      Twitter folks are going feral over a potential WWIII. Same people who say “never again” seem very excited to do it again but worse.

    • @Stalins_Spoon
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      112 years ago

      These people have a very rose-tinted view of war, thanks to all the media surrounding it

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    It is ridiculously easy to troll self‐proclaimed ‘antifascist’ anticommunists into defending Axis collaborators. Their oversimplification of the matter basically goes like this: the only ‘truly’ bad people working for the Axis was a small group of high‐ranking German officials. That’s it. Everybody else (anticommunist Austrians, Balts AKA ‘Forest Brothers’, Belgians, Chinese, Finns, Frenchmen, Greeks, Hungarians, Iberians, Imperial Japanese, Italians, Netherlanders, Romanians, Scandinavians, Slavs including traitors, Swiss bankers, Anglo‐American businessmen, Austro‐German businessmen, the Wehrmacht—you name it) just kinda weakly and reluctantly went along with it even though they really, really, really didn’t want toooooooo, so if they committed atrocities—which they probably didn’t—it was only because Adolf Schicklgruber forced them to do it.

    This, of course, overlooks the atrocities that they willingly and repeatedly committed without any outside pressure. For many anticommunists, the Third Reich’s early successes tremendously bolstered its credibility, and for a while it looked like the Axis was here to say, so rebellion would have been pointless. Read Industrial Collaboration in Nazi-Occupied Europe for examples.

    • @SpaceDogsOP
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      92 years ago

      Thank you for giving me more reading material! And yeah, the infantilization of Axis collaborators is far too prevalent. We literally have it documented that these people were loud and proud to support fascism and yet….