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    Quickly checked a travel agent here and it’s around €2.5k per person for a ten day plan. I wonder how much I could bring that price down if I were to arrange it all myself. Kind of scary to do it myself though, booking hotels etc. while being clueless.

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    Which countries? I skimmed the article and didn’t see a mention.

    Asking because it is very much not visa free for Russian citizens, despite, ya know, all the political theatre

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        So I guess there are limits to our professed “unlimited friendship”

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          An interesting question is which side didn’t want to have visa free travel. Entirely possible that the Russian government didn’t want to make travel to China too easy.

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            It should be noted that Russia isn’t marinated in sinophobic propaganda like Europe is. If combating that is part of the reason for increasing European visitors then it makes more sense.

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              I agree, nothing cuts through the propaganda like people actually visiting and seeing the country with their own eyes. I wonder if this might also cause brain drain from Europe as economic situation continues to deteriorate.

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          Yes there are, the alliance is purely pragmatic due to geopolitical circunstamces. Ideologically russia is aligned with the west, but for some reason the current oligarchs in the west haven’t moved on from cold war russophobia.

          Putin constantly says so too. “we are as bourgeois as you, there is no communist party power here, let’s negotiate.”

          Then again, it might just be lack of infrastructure to handle tourism coming from russia.

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          It appears China and Russia are visa-free for each other’s tour groups since 2023.

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            That’s funny, because I have specifically went looking for tours to China after reading this article (and again after reading your comment) and the visa requirements are there. There are supposedly some caveats: for example if one is flying transit through China, visiting Shanghai via a cruise ship or have residence permit.

            Although I suspect you correct, judging by the amount of Chinese tourist groups in Moscow and Petersburg

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    Journey to Paradise! Where the spas are paid by the state!

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      Unless you have CSA material, why would you bring a burner phone? You’re kinda telling on yourself.

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        I’d use a burner phone, not for travel to the PRC or because of CSAM, but for travel among western states. Every accusation is projection for them.

        The last thing I need is some customs agent cloning my phone and arresting me over something like being a marxist, pirating, or just having made comments about their politicians.

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        I’d use a burner phone, not for travel to the PRC or because of CSAM, but for travel among western states. Every accusation is projection for them.

        The last thing I need is some customs agent cloning my phone and arresting me over something like being a marxist, pirating, or just having made comments about their politicians.

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          Youre collecting data and transmitting it to the greatest surveillance group in history, the US government (and you aint even gettin paid), and youre more concerned about a country like China that is surrounded by US military bases and fleets? You do you.