Isn’t it interesting how libs and cons are both fine with the romantic idea of revolution until someone actually seriously suggests doing something drastic? Y’know, in minecraft?
Isn’t it interesting how libs and cons are both fine with the romantic idea of revolution until someone actually seriously suggests doing something drastic? Y’know, in minecraft?
This article is a great intro to the ideology of pacifism.
Red Phoenix - Pacifism: How to Do The Enemy’s Job For Them
Great article, thanks for sharing!
My go-to when dealing with the pacifist minded is to bring up the whole “What if an axe murderer broke into your house and was about to kill your whole family?”, or “What if you saw Hitler walking down the street?”
I hope that these questions would at least flustered them and expose them to the idea that, oh wait, not all violence is created equal and sometimes violence IS the right answer, even if only to show them that it’s not black and white and there must be SOME exception. Sometimes this has worked a little, but more than once I had people essentially telling me they would leave Hitler alone and let the murderer kill them and everyone they loved. Which I hope is just a lie and them stupidly and stubbornly defending their original position to the death, I HOPE that that is not actually true because if so frankly that is disgusting to me.
To me, violence is a part of the undeveloped world, animals kill animals, we kill animals, everything is built off of violence. Perhaps as human society develops into and past socialism something like pacifism will have its place, but while it’s still a dog-eat-dog world and we are playing a dog-eat-dog game with our oppressors for power, this shit is going to stay Game of Thrones, and people are letting themselves be enchanted by the spells of their enemies’ words if they are convinced otherwise.
I have similar conversations with my partner from time to time. She is, for lack of a better term, a principled pacifist. I think I really scared her when I said I would indeed try use deadly force to protect my family given the need.
Absolutely. Signaling that you would commit violence–not gleefully, not excessively, not as a first solution to every problem, but only grimly and pragmatically and with heavy heart–makes a lot of Western suburbanites (and adjacent types) very uncomfortable. It makes them look at you different, like some sort of monster or at best someone who is lying or misled.
Show her this classic:
What the actual fuck. This is the most absurd shit I ever read.
The article starts from the unbelievable two consecutive good takes from Orwell of all people.
heartbreaking moment