• QueerCommie
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    5 months ago

    How many billions of dollars did it take for the West to accept Russia’s initial demands?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      Look at this from US perspective though. They managed to successfully decouple Europe from Russian energy, and get them terrified of being invaded by Russia. A bunch of European industry moved to US boosting the economy, and the military industry can now sell weapons to Europe for decades on end. Seems like a pretty good result all in all.

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        It’s a good short term result- medium and long-term, this will surely have the effect little different from dousing the Euros with gas and setting it on fire- though who knows how things will specifically play out.

        Personally I suspect Europe will not be escaping the US’ thrall anytime soon (as a Canadian, same here). But the relevance of western Europe is no doubt only going to plummet from here onwards, and the current set of US puppets will probably have to be replaced in the decade or so to come- likely several times, though I can’t see the puppet masters actually changing for now. Whatever it is, Europe’s future looks more bleak, more unstable, and far less capable of filling its roles as imperial auxiliaries, as it has prior- and if the Europeans ever do actually start taking charge of their own destiny and realizing how badly Uncle Sam has screwed them over, then anything is possible.

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          Completely agree, US is cannibalizing its most important geopolitical ally, and this is going to have a huge negative implication for US going forward.

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            5 months ago

            “When you have a stomachache, stab your own stomach” - average euro lib

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              the stomach is a hotbed of foreign material immigrating into our precious bodily fluids. it’s suspect. build the wall^H^H^H^Hgag. shoot to kill.

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                You joke, but the liberal world order did convince everyone in the west to use antibacterial spray/wipes and antibiotics to such an extent that it amounted to a war against that hotbed of foreign material. Everyone’s gut is ruined and good luck with infections. But don’t worry, the chemical manufacturers got their line to go up.