I also just learned that several civilians were killed and that the guy who drove the truck may have been unaware of the explosives, so this is just an actual terrorist attack rather than a “legitimate” (from the most pro-Ukrainian perspective possible) target

yes, I’m two days behind and most of you probably already knew this, so what, wanna fight about it

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    I’d like to know what people in the Crimea actually think about this rather than seeing Zelensky croning on about “liberating” them, although I’m sure I already know the answer.

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      That’s the most telling part about all this: All this talk about Crimea being “liberated” but I haven’t seen a single person asking what the citizens of Crimea want. Since the 2014 referendum where they votged to join Russia is apparently a sham now, that means that no one’s polled them in like 22 years.

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        It’s often the case with many, mostly white, westerners and how they think. They think that they should have a say in everything or can speak on behalf of everyone.

        Never once will they shut up and, you know, listen to the people they talk about.

        A personal example for this is Black Pete in the Netherlands, a party with people doing blackface, basically our version of santa. Logically, many black people for a long time have been against it as it’s often a racist stereotype. Some ‘intellectual leftist’ I know like to discuss this topic a lot during our santa time of the year. None of them probably knows or interacts with a black person. None of them bothered to think about what black people might actually want in this, or if they should have a talk with a black person about it.

        Westerners think they have to be a part of every single problem and that their opinions on the matter always carry a big weight.

        The Iranian protests come to mind in this. Every Westerners has an opinion on those poor Iranian women and how they are being oppressed but fail to see what Iranian women actually have to say about this, which is not anti-Islam, anti-headwear or anti-Iranian, but the Western men and women decided for them that it was and that it should be. How can you possibly know what is best for a certain group of people if you are not connected to them in any way?

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      Anecdotal evidence is bad but I know a crimean lady and she is happy of having a Russian passport now

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        You actually knowing one Crimean lady puts you leagues above western media reporters’ qualifications to be talking about how they feel fr

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        BBC out here saying Putin lost their support after the SMO started but like, a Ukrainian terrorist blowing up their bridge to the rest of Russia won their hearts and minds? Sure.

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          Like, fucking water blockade that was broken only after SMO started is surely would have made Crimeans love Ukraine or something.

        • don’t you see that’s why Russia done gone and blown up their own bridge and used mind control magic to make the Ukrainians claim responsibility (in this scenario, I guess the people in Crimea are immune to mind control)

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      It’s always funny when they are like how do Afghans, or Pakistanis, or Iraqis, or Persians, or now Crimeans, or etc feel about something. Just ask them, it’s hilarious how libs think they can speak for others. Or in the case of Iran or Syria, they will have some relative of the shah that hasn’t lived there for decades speak for them.