Which country in Europe do you guys think is most likely to go socialist?

    • Shrike502
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      2 years ago

      Doubt it. Don’t forget - Russian capital holders grew up in the Soviet Union. They understand perfectly well what they stand to lose in case of socialism. They didn’t destroy the Union just to allow socialists back into power

      • Soviet Snake
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        Yeah, sure, but I mean, the Communist party there is the second largest political party, so in my opinion that’s a pretty good probability they will end up again in power in some way or another.

        • Muad'DibberA
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          Yep, the communist movement in Russia is stronger than any other european country.

          Other reasons would be: their close relationship with other BRI / BRICS countries, their exclusion from the spoils of western finance capital and semi-periphery status, antagonistic relationship with western europe / the US, massive popular support and nostalgia for the USSR.

          • KiG V2
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            EDIT: Read Shrike’s reply

            Also, their growing relationship with China. Lots of cross pollination of policy and culture and politics.

            Also, while the Soviet beaurocracy, for all its faults in ossification, while it has been largely stripped of its ideology in the surface it has remained calcified and as an obstruction to liberalizing forces. IIRC they still have several major industries that are nationalized that would be political suicide, both within the political class and with the Russian people, to privatize.

            IIRC the largest communist party is and has been controlled opposition but there has been a strong undercurrent of genuine communists slowly growing over the last decade.

            Problem is they have a growing Western-esque middle class hipster Synthetic Left too, we’ll see how that goes though. I have yet to see there be a country with a proper acknowledgement and clash between the synths and the communists, usually only one or the other exists, so it’d be a good conflict that could spread for example to the West where us Western communists could finally have a mainstream opportunity to differentiate ourselves from baby leftists in a positive way.

            • Shrike502
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              Lots of cross pollination of policy and culture and politics.

              Admittedly I don’t live in the far East, where the contact with China actually happens, but I don’t see it here, west of Urals. Feel free to correct me.

              but there has been a strong undercurrent of genuine communists slowly growing over the last decade.

              And there has been a growing response to them from the government. AFAIK at least one communist organisation was forbidden from registration as a political party, because they honestly outlined their position in the program. The response was that since they are “openly calling for change of government” they fall under extremist definition. There’s a law, you see, makes calling for a government overthrow illegal. It’s been used to clamp down on fascists and some orgs that were probably pro-west liberals. But make no mistake - since socialism requires a revolution, this law will be used to clamp on communists too.

              • KiG V2
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                Well, I am an American, who are so famously good at knowing what they are talking about 😂😂😂 so I have to readily admit that I am merely going off of a different person’s allegedly living there’s perspective, it was a decent read but I don’t have any facts to really back my claims. You likely have much more information on this just being a resident so I’ll definitely take your word for it over my secondhand take; I have nothing to correct you with. And the second part too makes perfect sense.

                Sorry if I’m speaking robotically I’m just really 🌲🌲🌲 while writing this, thank you for your response I would also like to hear more details from you as a resident if you would be down to share further takes on the matter, always down to learn from new sources

                BLESS

        • Shrike502
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          2 years ago

          I applaud your optimism. The picture looks rather differently from the inside.

          • Soviet Snake
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            I mean, maybe if you lived in a country where the most popular communist party is a trotskyist one and which still holds almost no power you would feel better, lol.

                  • Soviet Snake
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                    Depends on where you live, I live in one of the most humid places in the country and probably on Earth too, maybe the Caribbean is worst only, so we get crazy temperatures in summer like 40 degrees plus droughts and stuff, not a nice thing to go through, but maybe if you like hot climate?